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Dundas West/ Bloor Mobility Hub +interconnected hub network (Metrolinx)

Amare

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I'm not excusing Metrolinx or the City of Toronto on their ineptness on this file, but the owners of the Crossways are the biggest bozos i've ever heard of. For all this time they didn't want a tunnel that would actually benefit them?

If that's the case they should construct the tunnel so it literally bypasses through their property with no connections to it at all. Apply the screwdriver to them to the fullest extent possible I say.
 

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I'm not excusing Metrolinx or the City of Toronto on their ineptness on this file, but the owners of the Crossways are the biggest bozos i've ever heard of. For all this time they didn't want a tunnel that would actually benefit them?

If that's the case they should construct the tunnel so it literally bypasses through their property with no connections to it at all. Apply the screwdriver to them to the fullest extent possible I say.
I could be wrong, but I think the plan is already as you describe with no connection directly from Crossways. Just from the Bloor GO/UP station, with a bit of the Crossways underground parking consumed by the tunnel.
 

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I know this might’ve been said a million times, but the fact that they haven’t done this since day 1 of UP express opening really tells how unorganized they are. And it’s been 5 years, 5 WHOLE YEARS since the UP Express opened
 

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I know this might’ve been said a million times, but the fact that they haven’t done this since day 1 of UP express opening really tells how unorganized they are. And it’s been 5 years, 5 WHOLE YEARS since the UP Express opened
How exactly do you find them "unorganized", given that there's a piece of private property in the way of the tunnel that refused to allow them to build one?

Do you know how long expropriation takes, or how disadvantageous it can be financially for the government as opposed to arriving at a consensual agreement (e.g. where the property owner offers a discount in exchange for the added customer base for their mall from foot traffic)?
 

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Not knowing about this thread, I happened to contact Metrolinx about this tunnel and received the below reply yesterday. They said it will be completed by 2022 (which contradicts the reply given to Mrgeosim last month that completion is expected for 2023).

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I got hot potatoed by Metrolinx staff to the issues specialist, so as much as I'd like to believe the tunnel is going in in 2022, I think the email I received gives evidence to suggest a later date.
 

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I got hot potatoed by Metrolinx staff to the issues specialist, so as much as I'd like to believe the tunnel is going in in 2022, I think the email I received gives evidence to suggest a later date.
Must be digging using hand tools. Must not be letting the property owners that they have already started.
See link.
 

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Before the DUNDAS WEST STATION, the KING streetcars used the VINCENT loop, where the The Crossways is now located.


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This was where the KING streetcars turned normally for its return trip to the ERINDALE loop (BROADVIEW STATION today). The DUNDAS streetcars did not normally use the VINCENT, but continued past to loop at RUNNYMEDE. Ditto for the night CARLTON streetcar.

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Maybe the DUNDAS WEST STATION should be renamed the VINCENT STATION. The VINCENT staging yard is used by subway trains between KEELE and DUNDAS WEST STATION, so the name still exists.

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The ancestor of today’s Dundas West station’s loop is Vincent loop, named after a street that no longer exists. Vincent Street ran from Dundas Street, a block north of Bloor, east to dead end at the rail corridor. While a short street, the name seemed to have a surprising resonance with the TTC. When the BLOOR-DANFORTH subway was being designed, the station where the line crossed Dundas Street was originally to be named “Vincent” instead of “Dundas”, so passengers wouldn’t confuse it with Dundas station on the YONGE subway. While the station was eventually named “Dundas West”, the Vincent name stuck around as the official name of the staging yard immediately to the west of Dundas West station (commonly called “Keele Yard” — access to which is found via a doorway leading off the stairs leading up from the eastbound platform to the station’s mezzanine level), and it remains so named even though Vincent Street disappeared with the construction the Crossroads mall and apartment complex in the 1970s.
 

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