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Downtown Grocery Store List (current + proposed)

For a store in the premium segment this is fairly atrocious.

AoD

It is.........and Empire is consistent that when the close an existing store/banner, to open a new one, they will not allow cross-banner transfers of staff. Not at existing or at lower wages.

Example, to my understanding, where Empire is closing Sobey's Queensway, none of the staff are being transferred to the new Longos.

This, of course, saves money since no one keeps the hourly pay or the vacation entitlements earned with experience.

Metro is not the world's best employer, but I'll give them this, they do maintain a higher proportion of full-time staff with more experience, who are better paid.

But all the Canadian majors are really degrees of terrible in labour practice.

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Now, the mice issue is not merely one of labour. Remember, btw, that Metro in the St. Lawrence area had a shutdown too.

The truth is, we've had an epidemic of mice/rats in the last few years, the condo boom, plus projects like Ontario Line and Crosstown have disturbed many a nest and displaced them by the thousands.

Add to that, grocers face unique challenges in condo settings in terms of pest control. If pests infest the parking garage, but the garage isn't under the control of the grocer........its a real problem.

The retail lessor/manager and/or the Condo Board have to do their share. Its near impossible to keep a store pristine when you have an infestation elsewhere in the same building.

Not the same degree of issue for freestanding locations, where the grocer has full control.
 
trader joes won't happen - plus all the food that's made in USA would be tariff'd into Canada - even whole foods is/was struggling

our version is farm boy...
 
Why support an American brand when you can just shop at Farm Boy, the Canadian equivalent?

For the record, I'm a homer; but Farm Boy is not Trader Joe's on their best day, and on TJ's worst day.

Not the same shopping experience at all.
 
Why support an American brand when you can just shop at Farm Boy, the Canadian equivalent?

Well, the brand might be American, but it is German-owned (i.e Aldi Nord). In any case, the justification for supporting Farm Boy is kind of weak when a) the company does not heed health and safety regulations and b) it actively exploits their workers.

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Well, the brand might be American, but it is German-owned (i.e Aldi Nord). In any case, the justification for supporting Farm Boy is kind of weak when a) the company does not heed health and safety regulations and b) it actively exploits their workers.

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I mean, they all exploit their workers, don't they? We don't need to import American brands for that to occur here.
 
While not (yet) being tested in downtown Toronto, Loblaws is bringing back a variation of 'The Box' that it tested in smaller markets a few years ago.


The 'No Name' store will aim to lower prices around 20% and will do so by cutting costs in the following ways:

Short Hours: 10am-7pm
Limited to no marketing (no Flyers)
Limited product selection: 1,300 skus (items) (here some comparisons may help, typical full-line grocers stock 30,000-50,000skus); a typical Aldi in the U.S. is 1,500skus; side note, the first ever No Frills stocked only 500skus!
No Refrigeration - No Meat, No Dairy

My comments: The above won't work. They need limited meat and dairy for the store to do well. It doesn't have to be large, 200skus would work. Milk, Butter, Industrial Grade Cheese, Sour Cream etc could be 100skus; basic high-selling deli meat, bacon, chicken etc. They could probably omit beef and get away with it. But leaving those out entirely means people need to make more trips.

The weekday hours are too short, they might be able to get away with an 8pm close, but 7 is a non-starter.

Time to revisit this, my comments have aged well.

Particularly: The above won't work.

Two of the three stores (Windsor and St. Kitts) are shuttered or will be by month's end. Only Brockville remains.

I said so.

What a waste of money.

 
Time to revisit this, my comments have aged well.

Particularly: The above won't work.

Two of the three stores (Windsor and St. Kitts) are shuttered or will be by month's end. Only Brockville remains.

I said so.

What a waste of money.


I forgot about these.

It makes sense that they did not work out. I mean honestly, who wants to go to multiple stores for things even with a cheaper price.
 
Ha Ha! BlogTO has finally caught on that the Empress Loblaws in NYCC is closing.

But they don't know its going to be a T&T.

Apparently Jack hasn't been training the newbies to read UT for answers. We put that info out in the open ages ago.

 
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Not sure why they would try this when No Frills is already a known brand and relatively popular.

Better still, they've tried it twice before, and it failed both times.

The original No Frills followed this model, roughly. (minimal perishable, as few skus as possible)......they relented and added meat, deli, expanded produce etc.

Then they tried 'The Box' a few years ago...... same rough idea, failed again.

No institutional memory.

The idea is straight forward, less perishable, less energy use (fridges), fewer skus, lower labour cost, drop prices (by ~10% on average)

But your forcing people to make a separate stop for their mangos, their meat, their dinner rolls and their cheese. Plus smaller selection of condiments/cookies/tissue etc.

Just doesn't make sense unless you can save people over 20%, a hassle dividend, or have some other unique positive offer.

It was a dumb idea, and it rightly circles the drain again.
 

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