kamira51
Active Member
It's great to see that my tax dollers will finally give Scarborough the transit they deserve.
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W. K. Lis
Superstar
Sad is that the bus network and the later Line 2 extension wouldn't be used by Doug Ford. Except for photo ops, of course.
TheTigerMaster
Superstar
Most offensive part of this is that the SSE hasn't even begun construction yet.
sixrings
Senior Member
Well I’m not optimistic. I fully anticipate the COVID has changed the way we work so let’s put this on hold until we see how work from home unfolds. That said the government is going to be in a real mess post COVID and I won’t blame them for being shy to waste money on things like this.
innsertnamehere
Superstar
I mean it will have by the time it actually shuts down. Construction should *finally* begin by end of this year from my understanding.
But yea - 7 years of bussing sucks. And is totally a result of over a decade of waffling on this file.
Rainforest
Senior Member
There exists a thread called "Debate on the merits of Scarborough subway", created specifically for the subway-haters. But they do not want to use that thread.
sixrings
Senior Member
Subway haters. That’s true. The downtown elites hate subways. That’s why the Ontario line isn’t using subway tech and is above ground in some places downtown. Good thing those downtown elites didn’t ruin the grand vision of Scarborough.
Towered
Superstar
Can't wait to see OneCity's predictable attempt at a rebuttal.
Rainforest
Senior Member
They should have prioritized EE LRT many years ago. That was possible under Miller (instead of Sheppard East), then again once Rob Ford left the office in 2014/2015, but never really took hold.
Now it is too late, even if they finalize the design and start construction ASAP, it won't be built sooner than 2028-2029.
sixrings
Senior Member
Eglinton east was never going to be constructed before the central portion which is yet to be complete so I don’t know how it could have been prioritized under Miller. Blame everything on Miller. It’s all the big lefties fault. The world has done much better with fords and trumps in charge.
Rainforest
Senior Member
Well, I don't mind renaming this thread into something like "Let's bitch about SSE", if that makes you happier.
But that won't be useful, will it?
1. Those who support SSE will create a new thread and migrate there.
2. Those who have an issue with SSE will post in the old thread for some time, then will get tired preaching to their echo chamber, and will move to the new thread.
3. The old thread will become stale and fade, while the new thread will remain active and carry the new name selected at Step 1.
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north-of-anything
Active Member
This forum doesn't need to have separate threads for people who are for or against a certain project, if that was the case this board would be twice as big. Nobody hates subways, but quite a few of us saw this coming long ago with all the back-and-forth on the issue.
Rainforest
Senior Member
1. Not only Miller, it could be prioritized after Miller as well, during John Tory's tenure.
2. I do not want to blame Miller at all. His period was very positive for our transit overall. He did make some mistakes in choosing priorities, but still advanced the big picture.
3. EE LRT totally could be constructed without the central section, it just would need a yard near the EE LRT route. Curiously, the recent plans for EELRT do include a yard near the EE LRT route anyway, so it would just mean changing the order of construction.
Rainforest
Senior Member
That's true, and not related to the choice of technology or route. The endorsement of SSE came in 2013, it is 2021 now, it should have been in the middle of construction by now if both th city and the province did not drag their feet.
sixrings
Senior Member
Both conservative parties which allegedly are pro subway and pro suburb.