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@Richard White isnt exaggerating here, the trackbed is raised very high at the Birchmount and I have no idea what the rational is for it. It's to the point where I even worry about the axles of heavy duty trucks and buses which literally mount the intersection.

I havent been to the area in a while, so its news to me that they relocated the SE bus stop on Birchmount. I have no idea why the didnt grade the entire southern approach of the intersection higher when the were reconstructing the intersection.
 

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@Richard White isnt exaggerating here, the trackbed is raised very high at the Birchmount and I have no idea what the rational is for it. It's to the point where I even worry about the axles of heavy duty trucks and buses which literally mount the intersection.

I havent been to the area in a while, so its news to me that they relocated the SE bus stop on Birchmount. I have no idea why the didnt grade the entire southern approach of the intersection higher when the were reconstructing the intersection.
It's temporarily relocated because currently you can't access a bus from the original stop with climbing up a slope and in. Far from being wheelchair accessible and even for someone able bodied like myself it's unsafe.
 

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Some of these intersections are going to be problematic.

Birchmount and Eglinton has a gigantic hump where the track has been raised up through the intersection. If your car is too low and you are going too fast you will destroy the front of your car. We have a mazda 3 and have clearance issues driving over it.

Come the winter, snow plows are going to have a hard time plowing north/south streets through intersections with eglinton because in most cases the trackbed through intersection is higher than the north/south roads. I am fully expecting accidents or other issues this year at Birchmount and Eglinton.

My father jokes that if he gets up enough speed in his Dodge Magnum (it has about 560 HP) he could get airborne ala Ferris Bueller at that intersection.

Have the regular lanes been repaved? That would be one of the last things done, could be the cause of the hump here.
 

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I was trying to find the platform lengths for this line but I could get it from only one source and it was 60 m. Is that right? How does that compare with the new streetcars in terms of length?
 

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I was trying to find the platform lengths for this line but I could get it from only one source and it was 60 m. Is that right? How does that compare with the new streetcars in terms of length?
From link.

The typical station box accommodates a 90 metres platform with a 40 metres service area at one end and​
a 20 metre service area at the opposite end resulting in a total station box length of 150 metres. Initially​
the LRT operation will consist of a 2-car trainset requiring a 60 metres platform. To protect for the ultimate​
3-car train set the 90 metres platform would be constructed, but then temporary walls would be installed to​
create the initial 60 metres long platform. A 2.5 metres wide corridor would bisect the remaining 30 metres​
reserved portion of the platform leading to an additional secondary entrance.​
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Station platform lengths on the legacy subway are about 152.4 metres in length.
 
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From link.

The typical station box accommodates a 90 metres platform with a 40 metres service area at one end and​
a 20 metre service area at the opposite end resulting in a total station box length of 150 metres. Initially​
the LRT operation will consist of a 2-car trainset requiring a 60 metres platform. To protect for the ultimate​
3-car train set the 90 metres platform would be constructed, but then temporary walls would be installed to​
create the initial 60 metres long platform. A 2.5 metres wide corridor would bisect the remaining 30 metres​
reserved portion of the platform leading to an additional secondary entrance.​
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Station platform lengths on the legacy subway are about 152.4 metres in length.
How will this work for the surface stops?
 

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Something doesn't feel right here. A typical subway car is around 20 m long and here we are getting LRT cars that are almost 30 m long?

I remember reading long back that the cars for this line will be similar to new streetcars, which are pretty small.
 

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Something doesn't feel right here. A typical subway car is around 20 m long and here we are getting LRT cars that are almost 30 m long?

I remember reading long back that the cars for this line will be similar to new streetcars, which are pretty small.
I believe its because they count all of the segments of an LRV altogether as one car altogether, unlike say the TR where all of the articulated segments are counted individually.
 

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Something doesn't feel right here. A typical subway car is around 20 m long and here we are getting LRT cars that are almost 30 m long?

I remember reading long back that the cars for this line will be similar to new streetcars, which are pretty small.
30 meters is correct. The Flexity Freedoms, like the streetcars, are made of 5 short segments which total longer than a single subway car. They can run independently or in multiple units, unlike individual wagons of a subway train.
 

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30 meters is correct. The Flexity Freedoms, like the streetcars, are made of 5 short segments which total longer than a single subway car. They can run independently or in multiple units, unlike individual wagons of a subway train.
The Montréal Metro cars are 2.5 m wide.
The Flexity Outlook streetcars are 2.54 m wide.
The Toronto Rocket subway cards are 3.124 m wide.

The buses are 2.59 m wide.

The Flexity Freedom light rail vehicles are 2.65 m wide.
 

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How will this work for the surface stops?
"Platforms will be approximately 90 metres long to accommodate three-car trains."

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Guessing if they need more than the 90m, they'll just expropriate from the traffic lanes. 3.3m for traffic lanes is not needed, should be 3m to slow the traffic down to a more reasonable speed.
 
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Guessing if they need more than the 90m, they'll just expropriate from the traffic lanes. 3.3m for traffic lanes is not needed, should be 3m to slow the traffic down to a more reasonable speed.
The challenge would then be running a sensible service plan, because it wouldn't be able to berth at Kennedy, Science Center or Laird. It would exclusively have to run on the surface section, and that would only make sense if most of the people are travelling locally. A 120m train will probably exceed the length of a pocket track, and would therefore have to foul the main line in a turnback.

If circulation inside the vehicles wasn't so bad, you could probably get away with selective door opening on the underground section and half a car overhang on each side of the station. But, anyone familiar with a streetcar knows how difficult it is to move between sections when it's busy.
 

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