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Councillor expensed chipmunk costume... and a Dalmatian and a bear, too.

Then he should pay for the cab himself......no?

He should.. I was just making a joke about the slow streetcars ;)

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news...ions-that-boost-their-profile/article1505395/

Toronto councillors spent more than $55,000 in taxpayers' money last year on donations to groups including churches, seniors' clubs, ratepayers' associations and minor sports teams that splash politicians names across their jerseys.

And if the past is any guide, the councillors who made these donations last year will do so again as the Oct. 25 election looms, reinforcing their near-insurmountable incumbent advantage.

"I think these kinds of donations are inappropriate," said Myer Siemiatycki, a municipal politics expert at Ryerson University. "When a municipal councillor gives funds to local ratepayer groups - not from their own pocket, but from taxpayers' pockets - it's a way of boosting the popularity and legitimacy of that incumbent that gives them a tremendous advantage over any challenger."

A little-publicized rule in the city's expense policy lets councillors draw from their $53,100 office budgets to donate to local organizations, including those they might solicit for support come election time. The cheque simply has to be cut before Labour Day in a campaign year, when more stringent financing rules kick in.

When city clerk Ulli Watkiss drafted the most recent version of the councillors' expense policy in 2008, she recommended against allowing such donations, arguing the practice left the city and councillors vulnerable to accusations of favouritism and vote-buying. "There is a public perception that councillors use their ability to make donations or sponsorships to generate goodwill with select community groups and garner support for re-election," Ms. Watkiss warned in a report. "This perception may become especially acute during an election year, and may lead to unnecessary complaints or court challenges."

Councillors ignored that advice and voted themselves permission to donate a maximum of $500 per group per year, down from $600 under the old rules.

In 2009, Councillor Raymond Cho (Ward 42 Scarborough-Rouge River) made more taxpayer-funded donations than any of his colleagues: He gave $4,753.52 to 15 different groups. Michael Walker (Ward 22 St. Paul's) came second with $4,575 to 10 groups and Sandra Bussin (Ward 32 Beaches-East York) was third with $4,405.98 to 20 organizations, including the "Bussin's Blizzards" soccer team and the "Bussin's Blue Jays," T-ball squad, teams she has sponsored for years.
 
I'm as disappointed with Giambrone as the next person, but, honestly, who gives a shit? It's $10. There's so many variables here. If he stopped and visited a local business before going out to dinner, does that make it okay? What if he continued on after that dinner to another venue nearby? What if he just forgot his wallet at home and decided to expense it because, hey, it's 10 dollars and who cares?

If anything, this is news because it continues to show how bad he was at having affairs. He's a putz because he didn't think that leaving a publicly-available paper trail when meeting his young extra-girlfriend was maybe a bad idea.

Have we really decided that we're going to judge our politicians based on who can spend the least amount of money? Because that's a shamefully low bar.

The media in Toronto has been absolutely atrocious at covering anything of real value that relates to this mayoral campaign thus far.

He probably did not forget his wallet and watching you continue to defend him as his integrity melts away like a snowman in July is embarassing.
 
Have we really decided that we're going to judge our politicians based on who can spend the least amount of money? Because that's a shamefully low bar.
Hardly the worst standard I can think of in judging politicians.

And Giambrone has now reached the stage of being permanently irrelevant. Time for this shortbus to disappear forever.
 
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Well, the fact that he expensed a cab fare to see his mistress changes the game - it sets up a potential pattern of violation against the expense rules and as such he should be reprimanded and demanded restitution to the city, not to mention investigated for further potential abuses.
Did he expense both the trip to and from his mistress? If so, I agree. If he only expensed one way, and it was no different than what he would have expensed for going home, then I don't see why it would be an issue.

If I'm travellling on business, and I stop and detour to do personal stuff travelling back from Peterborough, I'll still expense the mileage for a trip (without the detours), even though I never actually did that; I don't see that is wrong. And I don't see that we should hold public servants to different standards.
 
If I'm travellling on business, and I stop and detour to do personal stuff travelling back from Peterborough, I'll still expense the mileage for a trip (without the detours), even though I never actually did that; I don't see that is wrong. And I don't see that we should hold public servants to different standards.

Giambrone wasn't travelling home after an out-of-town business trip; he was moving within the city on personal business. And when I leave my office for home every day, I don't get to claim mileage, taxi fare or a subway token -- and rightly so.
 
Graphic Matt said:
Have we really decided that we're going to judge our politicians based on who can spend the least amount of money? Because that's a shamefully low bar.

Politicians should, neither, be judged on how much or how little they spend. They should be judged on how well they spend. Spending taxpayer money on a cab ride on a sunday night to see your girlfriend (regadless of how many women you are currently describing with that term of endearment) is not most people's definition of "well spent"....whether the cab ride cost $10 or some larger number. Poor judgement and lack of respect for your employers is IMO good enough reason to lose your job.
 
This is just a tempest in a teapot. Seriously: let he or she who hasn't expensed anything ever--including restaurant bills for tax purposes--cast the first stone.

Giambrone is legendary for putting in 18 hour days. I'd rather pay a workhorse councillor to put in 80 hour weeks and give this city everything he's got--and maybe expense the odd thing here and there--then pay the same amount to some drone who sleepwalks through his term but dutifully takes the streetcar to and from work and never steals any pencils. Perspective, people.
 
Giambrone wasn't travelling home after an out-of-town business trip; he was moving within the city on personal business. And when I leave my office for home every day, I don't get to claim mileage, taxi fare or a subway token -- and rightly so.
If he left his office, I agree with you. I didn't think he had left his usual place of work though.

Seems to be a lack of details posted here though. What was start/end of trip. What were other taxi trips that day. Was he carrying heavy materials? I can tell you, if something came up at the office, and I had to carry two boxes of materials home, and had to take a taxi, instead of the bus, I'd be expensing it!

I just don't really see the issue here. About $500 a year charged to TTC for taxis? What's that ... 12 or 13 trips? One a month? By all accounts he takes over a hundred TTC trips a month. And another $1500 a year on trips for ward business? So maybe a total of 1 taxi trip a week. One a fortnight if they are both ways.

I can't imagine anyone making an issue about this, unless they had some agenda to beat.
 
Oh man, did you hear that a councillor was seen leaving city hall with government-issued pens? Or about the other councillor who used city hall photocopiers for personal use? I also heard that one of them also might have made a PERSONAL long-distance call on their office phone.

These sorts of things will totally impact my voting preferences in the fall because I am a goddamned crazy person.
 
Uh oh ... looks like this will get bigger. I have it on good authority that Councillor Ford was caught phoning his wife on his office phone last week.
 

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