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Consolidated 54/55 Division, Housing Now @ TTC Danforth Garage Site

Community meeting before design begins on Danforth Avenue station​


Toronto Police are holding a town hall to discuss the design of their new 55 Division Station, planned for 1627 Danforth Ave.

The virtual meeting is to be held Jan 24 from 6:30 to 8 p.m.

This is to be an introductory meeting with the community before the team starts the concept design.

The new station is to replace the existing 55 Division Station at 101 Coxwell Ave. and sub-station at 41 Cranfield Rd.

The station is part of the larger Danforth Garage Master Plan redevelopment planned for the former TTC Danforth Garage site, bounded by Danforth Avenue, Coxwell Avenue, Hillingdon Avenue and the rear property line of the Woodrow Avenue homes adjacent.

Construction is expected to take about three years after design, with occupancy expected near the end of 2026.

You can join the meeting via Webex from this link, or by phoning 416-216-5643. Access code is 132 912 1333.

For updates or more information, see the Toronto Police Service website.

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AlvinofDiaspar said:
Rather unambitious given proximity to a subway station - not suggesting that we need 40, 50s towers here, but 10? They can learn a bit from Mirvish Village.

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The subway stations along the Danforth have been serially under-intensified for so long. Some traction has begun surrounding Main Street station, and others scattered mid-rises around the other stations. But this site right here would've been a ripe opportunity to redevelop it into a larger node.
 
AlbertC said:
The subway stations along the Danforth have been serially under-intensified for so long. Some traction has begun surrounding Main Street station, and others scattered mid-rises around the other stations. But this site right here would've been a ripe opportunity to redevelop it into a larger node.
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A city-owned site is going to be limited to the height they would officially welcome from a private proponent, typically. The City is unlikely to go for a precedent that breaks its own planning rules.

That said, the initial intent did include an additional residential building; but the police insisted on not having residential over the top of their station.

There was also some hope the TTC would move out; but they decided to insist on staying.

That leads to some less than ideal ambition here.

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Over at Woodbine, we've seen the one 9-storey condo go up and the proposal for 985 Woodbine (literally next to the station is decent sized), but on hold for the moment.

The site across from this building, (the Green P lot, the Shopper's Drug Mart and lot, and the one-storey strip plaza are perhaps the single most enticing development opportunity on Danforth from Broadview
to Woodbine.

They could easily sport direct access to Coxwell Station, facilitate a second exit to same, offer substantial intensification and public space while wiping out 2 parking lots that front Danforth.

I remain hopeful that will achieve something good.

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Hopefully, the Danforth frontage on this site will be a catalyst, even if the site is somewhat under intensified.

The new Library will represent a significant opportunity.
 
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The police division component of this project, and by extension, perhaps the rest is now on hold.

This from a report on Major Capital Projects to a recent meeting of Executive Ctte:

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This project as conceived appears dead in the water.

Not only do the police want out.............they want to un-do what they did that precipitated this project and de-amalgamate 54 and 55 divisions, rebuilding them on their former and current sites respectively.

From the latest Police Services Board Agenda:

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This change impacts affordable housing plans for both the Danforth Garage site and the current 55 Division as such, @HousingNowTO must be flagged.

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Comments:

1) I'm glad to see a re-think given out-of-control cost escalation here. But I'm not sure turning one project into three, and 2 sites into into 3 will end up saving much. This is a lot of money down the drain, and a lot of delay for needed new facilities including housing.

2) The change may favourably impact the amount of affordable housing that can be delivered, allowing a much different footprint on the Danforth Garage site, which can support something taller/denser than the 55 Division site. Albeit, it will arrive years later than it might have.

3) I do hope they retain the idea of a redeveloped and expanded library.

4) Great idea the TPS has, taking one large police division, created at great hassle and expense within the last 10 years and splitting back to be roughly what it was, at further expense and cost!

5) If we are to recreate 2 police divisions here, I think the 55 site is fine......however, the 54 site is buried in an industrial area and gives police low visibility. I'd prefer to see the 54 site shifted out to O'Connor or some other more visible and accessible parcel.
 
Sorry for being back this old thread.

Has TTC given any updates on what they want for this property. Have they looked at moving the admin work from 1627 Danforth to Greenwood yard and free up this property? Or even have a new look at it for EV buses. It's a good location and stop & go routes and bus storage.

Also the city can increase affordable housing units in this site.

I agree , it's a good move on Toronto police to back out of this property.
 
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RapidTransit said:
Sorry for being back this old thread.

Has TTC given any updates on what they want for this property. Have they looked at moving the admin work from 1627 Danforth to Greenwood yard and free up this property? Or even have a new look at it for EV buses. It's a good location and stop & go routes and bus storage.

Also the city can increase affordable housing units in this site.

I agree , it's a good move on Toronto police to back out of this property.
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This could 1000% become an EV garage or even a wheel trans garage if need be. I’d hope TTC would consider it since it’s such a big site and is still zoned for a bus garage. I understand the locals pushback if it were a diesel bus garage but I think and EV garage would be suitable. Move a lot of East York and downtown routes here from Eglinton and Birchmount and cut down on deadhead times.

However, I believe Ontario made Coxwell a development hub, as they have done with about 90% of transit stations so that dream may not happen and it’ll end up in the affordable housing file and nothing will happen for 15 years….
 
JBR said:
This could 1000% become an EV garage or even a wheel trans garage if need be. I’d hope TTC would consider it since it’s such a big site and is still zoned for a bus garage. I understand the locals pushback if it were a diesel bus garage but I think and EV garage would be suitable. Move a lot of East York and downtown routes here from Eglinton and Birchmount and cut down on deadhead times.

However, I believe Ontario made Coxwell a development hub, as they have done with about 90% of transit stations so that dream may not happen and it’ll end up in the affordable housing file and nothing will happen for 15 years….
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I know TTC will start storing Wheel Trans buses to the Kipling/Purolator site either this year or next year.

I didn't realize Coxwell and Danforth have been a zoned for a development hub. With the province wanting to add more density around subway station, it's expected.

I remember years ago, maybe 2002 about a year after TTC shut down Danforth bus garage , there was a TTC report taking about how it cost TTC more money in operations because buses were deadheading for a longer distance to a garage. I'm sure 20+ years later TTC hasn't found a way to reduce the cost. But with a big EV push and TTC always in some kind of operation funding gap, reactivating Danforth should help. It's not like they have to purchase land. It's already zoned for a garage. And I know TTC had to keep the fire code up to date on the building considering it's still being used. Even if it's a satellite garage for Eglinton or Birchmount divisions. Also the proximity to downtown and the style of operations would be a more effective setting for EV buses.
 
RapidTransit said:
I know TTC will start storing Wheel Trans buses to the Kipling/Purolator site either this year or next year.

I didn't realize Coxwell and Danforth have been a zoned for a development hub. With the province wanting to add more density around subway station, it's expected.

I remember years ago, maybe 2002 about a year after TTC shut down Danforth bus garage , there was a TTC report taking about how it cost TTC more money in operations because buses were deadheading for a longer distance to a garage. I'm sure 20+ years later TTC hasn't found a way to reduce the cost. But with a big EV push and TTC always in some kind of operation funding gap, reactivating Danforth should help. It's not like they have to purchase land. It's already zoned for a garage. And I know TTC had to keep the fire code up to date on the building considering it's still being used. Even if it's a satellite garage for Eglinton or Birchmount divisions. Also the proximity to downtown and the style of operations would be a more effective setting for EV buses.
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Contrary the TTCs belief.......there's nothing precluding a major development going over a bus garage. Yonge/Eglinton sorta met this standard, though it was only a parkade a cinema over the top.

But It would absolutely be feasible to do one level of staff parking underground, a grade-level and one-level above bus garage, encased by retail on major road frontages, and then towers sited over the top.

If the garage is EV the noise and fumes issues are minimal.
 
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