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City orders condo developers to buy annual metropass for every unit

the main point is, the courts will decide on this illegal policy. Pretty much every condo development will refuse to buy into this, and the city can do absolutely nothing punitive to the developers, since the law is illegal in the first place.
 
Illegal or not, it's just a stupid idea all around. Developers will simply pass the cost along to the buyers, and those buyers who drive and don't need the pass will likely sell it privately to someone who would otherwise buy the pass. The end result will be no net increase in metropass sales for the TTC. Only (local) politicians could come up with something so obviously dumb.
 
According to Councillor Howard Moscoe.... "I think we're going to get awards for this all over North America," :eek:

Time for him to be put in that rocking chair. What award are there for doing this as I know of none??
 

Stop giving free Metropasses to condo buyers, say builders

Toronto Star - Jan 24

Robyn Doolittle
Urban Affairs Reporter

A controversial policy that requires builders purchase a year’s worth of Metropasses for new condo buyers may be the next tax nixed under the Ford administration.

Fed up with what they say is an unfair cash grab created to subsidize the TTC, developers say they will be pressuring Mayor Rob Ford to repeal it.

Since 2009, the TTC has collected $1,080,694 from builders buying Metropasses. And with the economy rebounding, the policy - which only applies to new buildings - is expected the generate even more funds for Toronto's cash-strapped transit system.

The industry will find support from TTC chair Karen Stintz, who says she never supported the policy when it passed council two years ago and she still doesn't.

Stephen Dupuis, president of the Building Industry and Land Development Association (BILD), said builders are spending hundreds of thousands of dollars on the passes even though buyers aren’t using them.

To warrant the $111 pass — which comes to the builders at a slightly discounted rate — a person would need to use the TTC 44 times a month to break even.

“We find the majority of condo owners also own cars and are content driving. Not all the time - but they don't make enough use of a Metropass,” Dupuis said.

That's the case at Tridel’s Grand Triomphe 2 project in North York, said Stephen Upton, vice president of development with Tridel.

“Right now, the mayor is busy with the budget. Once we get past that and he can get into the day-to-day stuff, we’ll be pushing to get rid of this policy. I’m hoping it’s by spring,” said Upton.

And while politicians may try to sell the “free” pass off as a perk for new owners, the buyers will inevitably be on the hook for the additional funds, said Brian Johnston, president of Monarch’s Canadian division.

“It really isn't free,” he said. “Any cost gets passed on to buyers. Politicians love to convince themselves it doesn’t, but it does. Developers are trying to make a return on their investment.”

Monarch isn't even promoting the Metropass deal in its marketing for the builder's latest project, Encore, at the Scarborough Town Centre.

“That’s not why people are buying highrise condominiums,” Johnston said. “It’s an awkward way to try to finance the TTC, in my view.”

City council approved the policy, which applies to all new buildings with 20 or more units along transit priority areas, in December 2009.

It officially came into effect last April, but developers facing pressure from councillors and bureaucrats began voluntarily purchasing them a year earlier.

At the time it went through council, transit-friendly councillors such as Howard Moscoe — who has since retired — predicted it would “cause people on transit lines to abandon their cars.”

Right-wingers, including then-councillor Ford, did not support the initiative.

During the campaign, Ford met with the BILD board twice. He seemed open to doing away with the policy, said Upton, who is also the board's vice chair.

Toronto's new TTC chair was also opposed to the plan back in 2009.

“I didn't think it was appropriate for the city... to ask a condo company to buy Metropasses,” Stintz said Friday, adding she is definitely interested in reopening the issue.

“That being said, we need to figure out ways that we can mutually benefit from the increased value and development opportunities when building on a subway line.”
 
If Ford, who believes there is a way to build subways using money from developers on the line, believes that a $1284 per unit charge is a cash grab... how much did he think these developers would pay to build the subway? You would need to build 2.3M new residential units along the Sheppard East line charging one year of Metropass in order to pay for a $3B subway. Obviously the developers would need to be charged much more than this "cash grab" to build a subway. Do any of his policy ideas make sense?
 
I'm not the biggest fan of this program -- ridership is growing already; the only way to significantly grow it faster is to improve service and capacity -- but the "We just pass the cost on to consumers!" line that developers use drives me nuts. By that logic if the city cut development charges and Section 37 requirements condos would be even cheaper!
 
“That’s not why people are buying highrise condominiums,” Johnston said. “It’s an awkward way to try to finance the TTC, in my view.”

As long as so many condos are bought by Mr. Investor and Ms. Flipper, no, they won't be interested in Metropasses. Their tenants might be, though. Do physical Metropasses actually trickle down into their hands, or do the unit owners keep them...or does Tridel just pay a one-time fee worth 12 passes that gets added to the sale price? Turnover in a condo's first year is always huge...do buyers/tenants get to keep the passes if they move/sell within 6 months? Sounds like more of a hassle than a benefit for most.

If people are just using the TTC at 9 and 5 every day, they won't get their money back from a pass, especially if they take an occasional day off or get an occasional ride. Between retail (grocery store, LCBO, whatever) near downtown subway stations and stations in, say, North York Centre, there's a lot of people who might be moving into condos that take the TTC but still would not want a Metropass because they don't need to routinely make extra trips to get things done. Condo dwellers also live in smaller households than house dwellers, so there's fewer people to share a transferable Metropass with. And, of course, lots of people buy condos so that they don't have to commute...they're retired, or they've bought somewhere they can walk or cycle.

The whole thing still seems like little more than an attempt to stuff even more people on the subway lines (which is 'free' revenue) since transferable Metropass-using crowds could drown many surface routes (which is not 'free' revenue if service ends up getting boosted).
 
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Giving suburban condo purchasers a Metropass they didn't choose to buy makes great sense. It encourages ridership but at the same time it is obvious that most of the passes would be underused making it revenue which is very likely to be greater than the cost created by them using the pass. Unlike a transit specific development charge it also gives something to the purchaser in return. What do other development charges give you that existing properties don't already have? Nothing.
 
If investors and flippers buy 80% of a condo's units and the passes don't make it into the hands of the people who actually live there throughout that first year, that's some nice, consequence-free revenue. What do they do, anyway...show up at your suite door the day after the condo registers with a welcome basket of muffins and Metropasses? Maybe there's an investor in Hong Kong getting dozens of Metropasses in the mail every month.
 

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