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CAROLYN PARRISH -Torstar Interview

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Q&A: CAROLYN PARRISH

No politician's safe from her quick wit

BIO

Age: 60

Nickname: CP or Mom

Education: Kipling Collegiate, University of Toronto, Ontario College of Education.

Profession: Secondary school teacher for English and sociology.

Passion: Politics, change, improvement.

Fears: Spiders and trigonometry.

Pet: Favourite dog Texas, a 12-year-old boxer, died a year ago.


Favourite pastime: Working at the office and my garden and entertaining people at home.[/I][/COLOR]

Jun 05, 2007 04:30 AM
Phinjo Gombu
Staff Reporter


Mississauga Councillor (and former MP) Carolyn Parrish tells the Star that Stephen Harper lacks personality, Hazel McCallion doesn't frighten her and Toronto's politicians just aren't tough enough.

What is the key to a politician getting elected again and again?

All successful politicians that I know are people who are willing to take a stand on big issues such as the war in Iraq, or Mississauga where we are fighting Queen's Park to give us more money for clean transportation. One of the reasons Hazel has been so popular over the years – I don't always agree with her – is she does her homework and takes a firm stand on things.

Who is the better politician? Prime Minister Stephen Harper or Paul Martin?

Jean Chrétien. Harper is a cold fish. He has no charisma and approachability. Martin was a great finance minister but he was a very poor leader who lacked self-confidence. I watched Chrétien when the entire caucus was against something and he'd stand up and say, okay, I listened to you but my best judgment tells me this and this is what I'm going to do and I'm going to take the blame for it.

Are you scared of Hazel McCallion?

Noooooooooooooooo. You can't be afraid of somebody who looks like your grandma. But more importantly, I respect her a lot. I wouldn't go into a debate with her unprepared. She has a phenomenal institutional memory. She is as sharp as the first day I ever met her 25 years ago and she's very famous for saying, do your homework. She's a brilliant politician. I have an awesome respect for her abilities.

You've been described variously as a loose cannon and quick to quip. Shooting first, considering later?

That's not true. I'm a very passionate person. I tend to be criticized as a loose cannon by people who are on opposite sides of an issue and want to dismiss me. I'm not afraid to take a stand and I'm not afraid to change my mind. I'm quick with the quip and I'm very open to the media, which can be a mistake at times.

Have you always been political?

In university I was very passionate in the anti-Vietnam War movement because I was at St. Michael's College at the University of Toronto. We had a lot of American students and if they didn't get good marks at Christmas, they were scooped into the army and sent overseas and we'd get lists of those who had been killed. I didn't actually get into politics until my kids were in elementary school and I decided to run for school trustee.

What does your BlackBerry mean to you?

I'm a totally crackberry addict. I have it on my bedside table at night. I sleep very shallowly. I send messages to my assistant at his computer in the middle of the night.

What kind of person were you in high school and university?

I hate to admit this but I was in the gifted programs all through school so I thought I was very smart. I was also a social butterfly and very athletic, although you wouldn't know it by my body today. I, however, hit a brick wall in Grade 13 called trigonometry and ended up repeating Grade 13.

For 25 years, I had nightmares about being in a math class and not having my trigonometry done.

What is the biggest misconception that people have about Mississauga?

They think we are a suburb of Toronto which is absolutely incorrect. We have 57 Fortune 500 companies. Seventy per cent of our population could work right here in Mississauga. If we didn't live as close to Toronto, people would treat us the same as they do Calgary.

What are your feelings about Toronto?

I think Toronto is one of the best economic engines for the country and for the province. I don't particularly think their politicians are doing a great job ... We could have gotten away with a 3.2 per cent tax increase in this year but we put away another 1.5 per cent for future capital expenditures. Hazel and the other politicians in Mississauga plan for the future. We don't whine, we don't fuss. We just put the nose to the grindstone and we do what has to be done."


I hope that Torstar does that for other politicians from other municipalities so TO Forumers can read and then comment on how "honest" they've been with the Star.

Signed,
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The Mississauga Muse
 
Political correctness is a scourge and I like blunt politicians, so I have some sympathy for Carolyn Parrish. Still, "damn Americans, I hate those bastards" was one of the dumbest things anyone ever said in the House of Commons.

We had a lot of American students and if they didn't get good marks at Christmas, they were scooped into the army and sent overseas and we'd get lists of those who had been killed.

Wow, I love this line. It's almost like something out of Vonnegut. Whoever knew that a backbencher could have said something this poignant? Carolynn Parrish might have something in her, yet.
 
What is the biggest misconception that people have about Mississauga?

They think we are a suburb of Toronto which is absolutely incorrect. We have 57 Fortune 500 companies. Seventy per cent of our population could work right here in Mississauga. If we didn't live as close to Toronto, people would treat us the same as they do Calgary.
If they didn't live as close to Toronto they likely wouldn't have 57 Fortune 500 companies.

What are your feelings about Toronto?


I think Toronto is one of the best economic engines for the country and for the province. I don't particularly think their politicians are doing a great job ... We could have gotten away with a 3.2 per cent tax increase in this year but we put away another 1.5 per cent for future capital expenditures. Hazel and the other politicians in Mississauga plan for the future. We don't whine, we don't fuss. We just put the nose to the grindstone and we do what has to be done."

Their 'planning for the future' hasn't been terribly impressive...it's only recently that they started to get on the ball. I'm not sure what she means about "whining" ether...McCallion has made lots of remarks over the years about more support from other levels of government and I'm sure other local municipalities (Brampton, etc.) could cite many examples Mississauga politicians "whining" about something .
 
Q&A: CAROLYN PARRISH

What is the biggest misconception that people have about Mississauga?

They think we are a suburb of Toronto which is absolutely incorrect. We have 57 Fortune 500 companies. Seventy per cent of our population could work right here in Mississauga. If we didn't live as close to Toronto, people would treat us the same as they do Calgary.

This is simply delusional, though understandable given her political aims.
 
They think we are a suburb of Toronto which is absolutely incorrect.

you know what mississauga's problem is? they don't have a big dick like our CN tower in their skyline so of course people won't take that city seriously like our toronto with its big shaft. people know that toronto means business.

If we didn't live as close to Toronto, people would treat us the same as they do Calgary.

that's somewhat of a comparison since clagary has a shorter phallic structure to compete with. when your city is next to a city with a big shlong, don't complain that you don't get attention. mississauga, just be glad you have a buddy like toronto that's soo well endowed. you never know, if you be nice we might put in a good word for you next time the sexy corporations come by. we'll say "eh, you see that city over there? that's my buddy. go say hello, i heard he's single and has a thing for japanese".

ahh, mississauga forever to get toronto's sloppy seconds (businesses that move from the 416 to the 905). a victim of inadequacy.
 
I'm surprised no one commented about last week's council meeting where Hazel and Carolyn went at it.

Oh, well, might as well, then.

Gloves off at Mississauga City Hall

McCallion squares off against councillor rumoured to be angling for the mayor's seat

Jun 21, 2007 04:30 AM
Phinjo Gombu
Staff Reporter

Simmering tensions between Mississauga Mayor Hazel McCallion and newbie Councillor Carolyn Parrish erupted at council yesterday over who should maintain the city's streetlights.

For 30 minutes, business ground to a halt and city staff appeared captivated by the exchange, sometimes dripping with sarcasm, that flew between the veteran politicians – one the longtime mayor of the GTA's second-largest city, the other a former MP rumoured to have ambitions for her seat.

After a series of pointed questions by Parrish – on questions she'd submitted earlier that became the subject of a staff report – the mayor decided she'd had enough.

McCallion told Parrish that just wasn't the way business was done at Mississauga City Hall, where tradition is that councillors ask staff questions about reports before council meetings, not during.

"Let me advise you, Councillor Parrish, there's a process around here that we follow," McCallion lectured, describing how at 8 a.m. that very morning she had met with senior staff about the report on the city's hydro utility, Enersource.

"I got the answers, therefore I don't have to ask them at council," McCallion said.

Parrish responded that she wanted fellow councillors to understand the issues, which brought a retort that they could do their own homework.

That drew a muted response from Parrish at first, but 25 minutes later, after she'd had ample time to mull over the mayor's rebuke, she let rip with her own.

"We represent the city, we don't represent ourselves," Parrish said.

"So if I ask questions in open session on (cable) television, I have a right to do so," she said, noting that having worked at various levels of government, she was used to asking questions in various forums.

"And if I don't like the answers (given privately), I will ask them again in public. Even if I do like the answers, I will ask them again in public. This isn't a secret society."

That ratcheted things up a notch. McCallion suggested Parrish was trying to take credit for a proposed review of Enersource when it was actually a staff idea, and accused her of grandstanding.

"If you agree with the answers (in private), let's not go through an exercise of making you look good in the eyes of the public because you ask questions and you got the right answer from staff," McCallion said.

She told Parrish she should only question staff in council about issues she disagreed with.

"Madam Mayor, I thank you very much for the civics lesson," Parrish responded. "I have been in government for 20 years at various levels. I always asked questions and I will continue to ask questions.

"If we have a system around here whereby I have to check with you before I ask questions, I will do that quite delightfully," said Parrish.

And so it went for seven more minutes before another councillor finally piped up, saying: "Let's move on."

That was when the vote asking staff to begin the process of getting multiple bids for the streetlight maintenance contract was called.

The motion passed unanimously.

And another take (James)
 
Well this is not exactly a surprise. Following the election last November I suggested that it would tke almost no time until Parrish started stirring the pot at Miss. City Hall. She wants to be mayor and she wants to keep her name in front of the public. But there's a line between making real and positive contributions, and simply grandstanding. I'm not sure if she sees where that line is.
 
She is the worst type of politician, she is really only in it for her personal gratification. What does this type of grandstanding accomplish, was it standing up for her beliefs (i.e. I disagree with the position taken) -- or grandstanding for attention -- and the subject matter is an ancillary matter.

Luckily (IMHO) most politicians actually are there to accomplish something other than grandstanding for the sake of it.
 
Hi Muse, was Royson James actually there? I had the impression that he was taking his information from another Star reporter. I didn't think Royson James ventured much outside Toronto.

No I wasn't there, being a working guy. I'd like to drop by a few of those meetings if I ever get the chance. I'm sure I'd find them interesting, as you evidently do.

Further comments regarding Parrish: My reaction to her has been generally negative as you may have gathered from previous comments, going back to election time. The unfortunate thing is that she does have ability and intelligence, not to mention experience. She could put those qualities to good use.

If she wants to succeed, and specifically if she wants to be mayor of a large city and head of a bureaucracy, she'll have to learn to play nice with the other kids. This doesn't mean being a pushover or a puppet, it means being a team player, something which she is unskilled at. She's picking fights not only with the Mayor, but with some of the other councillors and senior staff (I have this directly from one of the other councillors).

The best ideas and motivations in the world aren't enough, if you can't get anything implemented, because you have p-ed off everyone in sight as you raise your profile.
 

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