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Alto - High Speed Rail (Toronto-Quebec City)

There are so many things wrong with that map! :oops:

It's absurd. It follows an extremely abandoned line that was replaced with a country road decades ago, wandering through villages. It's AI slop or a map drawn by an idiot, full of lines and dashes, signifying nothing. (ed. Or a good joke)
 
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The survey locations found on the Alto Field studies page give a fairly clear indication of options under consideration:

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In a subsequent interview (en Francais) the Alto CEO confirms downtown Montreal is the destination in phase 1:

 
So it has been announced that the first leg will be between Ottawa and Montreal to upgrade the Alexandria Sub.
And construction starts in 4 years and will probably take ten so Toronto won't see high speed rail anytime this decade or this lifetime.
After they build the first part the project will likely never get past the planning stage with huge cost overruns and delays.
 
So it has been announced that the first leg will be between Ottawa and Montreal to upgrade the Alexandria Sub.
And construction starts in 4 years and will probably take ten so Toronto won't see high speed rail anytime this decade or this lifetime.
After they build the first part the project will likely never get past the planning stage with huge cost overruns and delays.
They aren't waiting until the first section is complete.
 
So it has been announced that the first leg will be between Ottawa and Montreal to upgrade the Alexandria Sub.
And construction starts in 4 years and will probably take ten so Toronto won't see high speed rail anytime this decade or this lifetime.
After they build the first part the project will likely never get past the planning stage with huge cost overruns and delays.
The phases are meant to be built at roughly the same time, initial documents showed like a 2 year offset.
 
The phases are meant to be built at roughly the same time, initial documents showed like a 2 year offset.
yes - as design, expropriation, and ultimately construction staff finish with Ottawa-Montreal, they will move on to Toronto-Ottawa, and so on. It's intended so that the different groups have something they can progress their work directly into. Instead of Design having to do a 1,000km stretch all at once, they can do 200km, then hand it off to expropriation and focus on the next 400km to Toronto. Then Expropriation does their 200km, hands it off to construction before moving to the next 400km.. and so on. You don't wait for all the groups to be 100% done before starting the next part.
 
yes - as design, expropriation, and ultimately construction staff finish with Ottawa-Montreal, they will move on to Toronto-Ottawa, and so on. It's intended so that the different groups have something they can progress their work directly into. Instead of Design having to do a 1,000km stretch all at once, they can do 200km, then hand it off to expropriation and focus on the next 400km to Toronto. Then Expropriation does their 200km, hands it off to construction before moving to the next 400km.. and so on. You don't wait for all the groups to be 100% done before starting the next part.

Should be noted this is basically avoiding one of the main mistakes that has slowed California HSR to a glacial pace
 
It's still absolutely insane that the first leg is only starting in 4 years (if all goes well) and that construction for it alone will take 10 years (if all goes well). Canada is a joke nation,
Four years isn’t too bad of a timeline considering it was originally poised to be eight.

Not to mention that construction (shovels in ground) starting in 4 years means a lot needs to happen between now and then.

Design, consultations, studies, procurements, contracts, etc. Four years is really not that bad imo.
 

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