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Mayor of Timmins was Tory candidate; plus Doug campaigned aggressively there.That one was a landslide too............there must be a story here....
Mayor of Timmins was Tory candidate; plus Doug campaigned aggressively there.That one was a landslide too............there must be a story here....
I'm not arguing it *wasn't* time for her to go. But she actually went out on an "up" kind of down note, all things considered.It doesn't matter! 4 elections are 4 elections.
It was time for her to go.
I was just thinking about this. It almost seems like the LPO has now become the party of wealthy white voters. While the PC have found a formula in tapping into traditional cultural family and business values that non-white voters embrace. It's disappointing but regressive cultural ties do place a fair amount of emphasis amongst ethnic groups (eg. religion, anti-LGBTQ, anti-social programs). I personally know off hand that Asians were highly against Kathleen Wynne just for her sexuality and pushing an updated sex-ed curriculum when one listens on conversations beyond media. It's probably a 3rd Rail topic but it would be quite fascinating if there was a study on voting patterns associated with ethnic populations and outside of the 416.A few observations thus far:
- NDP doing better in Toronto than I expected, and the Liberals doing worse.
- PCs are massively popular in the ethnoburbs, no contest.
- The few likely LPO gains seem to be mostly wealthier, whiter and more educated ridings.
- LPO needs to rebuild and get a completely new fresh face. Even more so than the NDP, although not as urgently.
I was just thinking about this. It almost seems like the LPO has now become the party of wealthy white voters.
I knew Del Duca was a dud during the leadership campaign. I suspect he won because many sat out expecting the LPO to be in the wilderness for at least 1 cycle.Would the people who said that the liberals would win running a cactus as leader in 2020 please stand up.
I'm not so convinced. Not many besides Ford can effectively hold that coalition together. His 'aw shucks folks' routine would not pass muster for many centrists. The Randy Hillier brigade is also quietly stewing over the freespending ways of this government.Perhaps it’s time for the provincial Liberals to dissolve. The right side of the party (people like Pupatello) could join the PCs (which, to be fair, are quite independent of the federal Conservatives) and the left side (people like Wynne) would merge with the provincial NDP.
The provincial NDP, for its part, should be independent of the federal party.
This would be more in line with Western provinces, where the NDP and a version of the Conservatives are competitive, or BC, where the BC Liberals are a merger of right Liberals and the old Social Credit Party.
My main reservation about this is the inverse of my reservation about calls from the other end for the Libs and NDP to merge, i.e. strict binaries are "dumb" and un-dynamic. Maybe it's more that the OLP should accept its potential fate as an Ontario version of the UK's Lib Dems, rather than constantly huffing and puffing like it's entitled to Official Opposition status...Perhaps it’s time for the provincial Liberals to dissolve. The right side of the party (people like Pupatello) could join the PCs (which, to be fair, are quite independent of the federal Conservatives) and the left side (people like Wynne) would merge with the provincial NDP.
The provincial NDP, for its part, should be independent of the federal party.
This would be more in line with Western provinces, where the NDP and a version of the Conservatives are competitive, or BC, where the BC Liberals are a merger of right Liberals and the old Social Credit Party.
Not to mention Scarborough-Guildwood.Not so sure about that. University-Rosedale (NDP) and Eglinton-Lawrence (PCPO) are both whiter and more well off than say, Don Valley East (LPO).