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2006 Census

These numbers will probably decrease Toronto's influence and make it just that more difficult for the city to argue that it needs additional transit funds for new projects ("why does Toronto need money for new transit projects when their population is not growing? Our population is growing three times as fast and therefore we should be getting the money for new transit projects").
 
Another tidbit to keep in mind is that if the growth we've been seeing downtown and in NYCC and some other central and/or well-connected areas is being offset by depopulation in the inner suburbs, that should mean that city politics within the City of Toronto should have an increasingly pro-urban, pro-sustainable slant, even if the city overall sees diminished influence within the region.

More intense urban-suburban 416-905 polarization?

Again, don't mean to draw conclusions, and the thinking behind this may be sloppy - just throwing the ideas out there.
 
boiler:

Another tidbit to keep in mind is that if the growth we've been seeing downtown and in NYCC and some other central and/or well-connected areas is being offset by depopulation in the inner suburbs, that should mean that city politics within the City of Toronto should have an increasingly pro-urban, pro-sustainable slant, even if the city overall sees diminished influence within the region.

Not necessarily - considering the downsizers, gentrifiers and aging population might very well prove to have a more conservative bent. If anything, the political orientation of the old City of Toronto might shift more to the centre-right.

AoD
 
Sure, it's all depends on a lot of things, but there must be something to the trend of having a larger portion of the city's population living in denser areas, multi-unit buildings, and fewer in suburban detached housing.

Certainly, people living in a building near the subway would be more interested in TTC issues than someone living in a bungalow in central Etobicoke. The former are growing in number and the latter are decreasing.
 
You have a point, AoD, but centre-right is a relative term when it comes to downtowners. While they might be more pro-tax cut and pro-hard-line-on-homeless than their Annex neighbours, they are nevertheless likely to be very progressive on issues like transit.
 
is being offset by depopulation in the inner suburbs,

Are you saying that there are innercity subdivisions/bungalows that are empty right now? Or are they being eaten up by industry? Or are Toronto family sizes becoming smaller.
 
The world moves to Brooklin
`Small-town feel' fades as Whitby experiences highest growth rate in Region of Durham
Mar 14, 2007 04:30 AM
Carola Vyhnak
Staff reporter
When Michelle Giotis moved to Brooklin almost seven years ago, she was surrounded by fields and had to drive 20 minutes to get a coffee.

Today, she looks out on new houses in every direction and can get to a Tim Hortons in less than two minutes.

"Everything exploded about three years ago," says the mother of two young children. "It's been growing like crazy but it still has that small-town feel. Everyone loves it here."

The numbers bear that out. The town of Whitby, of which Brooklin is one part, is the fastest-growing municipality in Durham Region, with a population growth of 27 per cent, according to the latest census figures.

But the region itself is a study in contrasts, with big gains in areas like Whitby and Ajax, and stagnation or declines in other areas. The Township of Brock in the region's rural north end, for example, saw a 1.1 per cent drop.

"We're not scared by it," said Mayor Larry O'Connor. "We're going to grow, but it will be slowly. That's actually quite wonderful because it means the community will have some say in how we grow."

It's a different story to the southwest, where Ajax grew by 16,600 people, or 22 per cent, well above the Durham average growth rate of 10.7 per cent.

The numbers confirm that "more and more people view Ajax as a quality community in which to live, work and raise a family," Mayor Steve Parish said. The 16,600 extra residents tallied by StatsCan are families, senior citizens and "multi-ethnic" newcomers, he said.

"We've always been a very young community. We get a lot of people from the city who can't afford a home there, but can in a place like Ajax, which is still a reasonable commute for those who work in Toronto."

Growth is a "double-edged sword," Parish said, because while it brings business and money into the community, it also puts more demands on services and infrastructure.

"But we're handling it well. We have a long-established growth-management plan in place."

Oshawa and Pickering realized only minor gains of 1.8 and 0.8 per cent.

Oshawa Mayor John Gray suspects the additional 2,500 residents that StatsCan counted is on the low side.

"We've enjoyed very stable growth over the last number of years. And that's not just homes but job opportunities as well. We're not a bedroom community," he said.

When Oshawa's 20-year development plan comes to fruition, the area will offer the ideal balance of urban and rural, with all the "character and charm" that go with it, Gray said.

Pickering Mayor Dave Ryan is more frustrated than suspicious about the new figures, which put the city's population at just under 88,000.

"Quite frankly, we're being beaten up as the sprawl capital of the GTA, but that is not the reality," he said.

The city wants to do its fair share to support growth, but its hands are tied because senior levels of government have locked up two-thirds of Pickering's land over issues like the proposed airport and greenbelt, Ryan said.



Meanwhile, business is booming in Brooklin, where new schools, churches and stores spring up like mushrooms.

To long-time resident Bruce Church, however, it's all too much, too fast.

"Everyone moves out here for peace and quiet, but now we've lost that. We're just like a big city," grumbled the 74-year-old retired school principal.
 
"Are you saying that there are innercity subdivisions/bungalows that are empty right now? Or are they being eaten up by industry? Or are Toronto family sizes becoming smaller."

The third one...but more specifically to much of Toronto's inner suburbs, they're quite homogenous, of the age where all the kids have grown up and moved out so that entire swaths of houses may have less than 2 people in them on average.

Of course, in 20 years these depopulated suburbs may become radically repopulated, like Willowdale, both due to new families moving in and new residential construction. But who knows who these people will be, if new "avenues" and "centres" will be urban, midurban, or suburban, etc., so the effect on city politics is kind of unknowable.
 
Here are some more stats mined from the latest and previous censuses to mull over:

while Toronto's population grew 0.9% over the five year period, the number of dwellings increased by 7.8%

2006 Population 2,503,281 Dwellings 1,040,597
2001 Population 2,481,494 Dwellings 965,554

which makes for 2.4 persons per dwelling now, as opposed to nearly 2.6 person per dwelling in in 2001.

In my case the .2 less people in my dwelling is more than being made up for by the .2 tonnes more junk I have accumulated in that time.

41.8
 
More intense urban-suburban 416-905 polarization?

I don't think people north side of Steeles think differently than those on the south side. We pretty much have the same issues. The differences would be between rural 905 and the urban/suburban areas of 416/905. Note that the Tories only won rural ridings or ones that contain large rural areas in 905 during the last election.
 
In my case the .2 less people in my dwelling is more than being made up for by the .2 tonnes more junk I have accumulated in that time.

I guess that comes with a strong economy: more room and more junk per person. :) Which is probably another key explanation for the demographic situation in Toronto...
 
which makes for 2.4 persons per dwelling now, as opposed to nearly 2.6 person per dwelling in in 2001.
The importance of this can not be understated. Toronto's population would have grown by 193,000 rather than 22,000 if the people per household stayed constant.

What is crucial for Toronto is that the 416 suburbs remain desirable. If large swaths of Etobicoke and Scarborough retain their reputations, new families will not want to move into the houses vacated by baby boomers, and huge areas will become ghettoized. However, should Toronto remain desirable, every rise of 0.1 people per existing household raises the overall population by 100,000. Toronto could literally boom in 10 years.

If the people per household settles at 2.5 and we continue to gain 15,000 new units per year, there will be just under 3 million people in Toronto in 2016.
 
What is crucial for Toronto is that the 416 suburbs remain desirable. If large swaths of Etobicoke and Scarborough retain their reputations, new families will not want to move into the houses vacated by baby boomers, and huge areas will become ghettoized. However, should Toronto remain desirable, every rise of 0.1 people per existing household raises the overall population by 100,000. Toronto could literally boom in 10 years.

If "ghettoized" means people of a lower socio-economic strata moving in, it could very well mean a greater increase in people/household, given the differences in fertility rates, family size, etc.

AoD
 
I have never been into Milton. I don't know what the actual "town" part looks like. The old-school locals hate that, all their downtown shops are closing. I read the local paper, which is always the same, some dude stole a snowmobile, broke into a car, drove that car into a convenience store.
I hate to say it (unless it relates to how recently you moved in), but there's something a little ahistorically disconcerting (esp. within an urban-sensitive context like UT) about moving to suburban Milton without ever venturing into Old Milton, or even having any palpable curiosity about it.

BTW lest we forget, Milton's famous for being a nice place to get a good screw
 
Downtown Hamilton may get reintensified - in fact, I can see it happening. The problem is along Barton St - the old wood frame houses, the abandoned properties that show up (residental walk-ups, not just the glaring commercial buildings like Victoria Block, Lister Block or the old Dominion Building vacated only 2 years ago).

Take a drive in the residential areas north of Barton towards the steel mills. Quite depressed. Of course the city's priorities are on a questionable freeway through a ravine, not the downtown.
 

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