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I am sure they are trying all sorts of scenarios, however, they also have to demonstrate that the trains can follow the proposed schedule. This has to occur before the final live testing period can start.

What is the basis of this assessment? I watched the trains at South Keys today, which I consider the weak point of the line, because the track is shared by both Line 2 and 4. What I saw did not build confidence. They were running trains on both lines, but they were unable to operate either...

No, of course not. They are testing trains at the moment. Summer 2024??? The previous spring opening is not likely happening, at least not April.

Trillium Line 2 going south

This will be of interest to this discussion concerning the New York Central Railway that formerly ran between Ottawa and Tupper Lake, New York with connection to New York City. http://www.gloucesterhistory.com/Historic Gloucester Volume 21 No 3.pdf

There is role for regional rail which is designed to serve areas beyond the reasonable reach of LRT or subways. At some distance, LRT and subways are too slow as the number of stations grows higher and higher the further out you go. The challenge is that our traditional railways are privately...

We will never see additional service outside the corridor unless a business case can show that the service can operationally at least break even. The first step is to prove HFR can accomplish this. Additional rail service must also have provincial backing with a contribution towards at least...

Is the train actually going to Cochrane?

Totally agree. The biggest part of the problem is allowing 'experts' who didn't know Ottawa to make critical decisions and Ottawa City Council not questioning those recommendations. The decision to not replace the Walkley overpass to allow double tracking means that the problem of lack of...

The key part of the headline is 'at least' What city closes a rapid transit line for 4 years? I guess Toronto has started this process with the SRT. One other thing is that monthly payments are going up by 500% for Line 2.

Carling BRT is designated LRT in the Ottawa Transportation Master Plan and ran eastward from the Confed Line to the Trillium Line, not westward to Kanata. Barrhaven Town Centre is already being intensfied, and the Transitway going there already grade separated. Fallowfield is a Park n Ride...

Or when HFR becomes so successful, that the increase in traffic justifies a bypass as a way to increase passenger traffic even more. In other words, the Montreal express trains become a further add-on to frequency. I don't see this happening any time soon. The initial focus is make HFR as...

Maybe local trains could stop in Smith's Falls going to Kingston and express trains stop in Perth

There is a further problem here. Unless the Ontario government wishes to chip in a share of costs of a more regional service, why should it get priority? We all know how political it gets regarding service to London. Conservatives cancelled prior Liberal plans, which I know, were half hearted...

My understanding is that the M&O subdivision has been sold by VIA or will be sold. It is now off the table. I believe that it offers little potential benefit compared to existing VIA rail line that VIA has already invested significantly in track improvements.

I think there is no equivalency with the Calgary-Edmonton debate. There is an already established market for rail service between Toronto, Ottawa and Montreal. That does not exist between Calgary and Edmonton. This is also a totally a within Alberta project. TOM is interprovincial and...

I am not sure what we gain (other than trying to avoid most of the shield country) by diverting trains from the Havelock/Tweed area down to Kingston and then back to Smiths Falls. It lengthens the track significantly between Toronto and Ottawa and ultimately to Montreal, which negatively...

Hmmm. What are we trying to do? Isn't it intercity service between the big cities? This is where the benefits of HFR/HSR are derived. HSR cannot serve multiple small cities relatively close together. Also, we are a lot further off in dealing with southwestern Ontario cities. So, delay all...

Note that there is no historic rail right of way between Kingston and Smiths Falls. The former Canadian Northern, ran between Smiths Falls and Napanee, crossing the Rideau Canal at Jones Falls, some distance north of Kingston. While the Havelock line runs through the Shield, the Lakeshore...

As an Ottawa resident, this whole situation is very disappointing. Frankly, it is a disaster for Ottawa transit, and has greatly affected public confidence in the transit system. It seems to me that there is a serious incompatibility between the trains and the track design. This closure is...