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needlessly burying trains, at great cost (both fiscally and environmentally) is a form of car dependancy. Tunnels are a tool in the transit tool belt when trains need to travel in dense urban areas with no realistic surface alignments - They should not be the default. But the Ford government's...

Don't forget the mythical waterfront east LRT :rolleyes:

It's an underrated factor when comparing low cost-of-construction transit geographies (Spain, China etc.)... when you build a lot of transit and keep building it constantly - you get good at it. One hopes we can achieve the same, eventually.

Maybe I'm in the minority, but costs (and questionable business case methods) aside I think Ontario Place is a way better and obvious location for OSC. The existing building is an architectural gem but it's dilapidated and pretty unaccessible to much of the city. OSC at Ontario Place would be a...

From a carbon perspective only - urban tree removal is a red herring. You could clear cut every tree in the GTA and the net carbon impact at a global level would be negligible. Trees provide ecological habitat, shade, aesthetics and livability and should be protected for those reasons. But...

I think what get's lost in the discussion is that what's important is the *principles* of traditional architecture, not necessarily the strict adherence to a certain historical style. Across the world and many distinct cultures, several common themes emerge, implying a certain innate human...

Man catching up on this thread has been a trip - definitely has shades of the r/toronto subreddit 😅. Some people need to get outside and touch grass. This park is great. The water will be sorted out. It's gonna be fine.

I really like the orange! Hopefully corporate sponsorship helps with their budgetary concerns.

Because your math is wrong. I'm assuming you're getting that number from the $19B figure that's been floating around which is the TOTAL operating cost of the line including 30 years of operation, not the construction costs alone.

I guess we're just going to have to disagree. We can appreciate our country's history and the many advantages while also acknowledging that the Canada that exists today is separate, distinct and completely unlike Great Britain. Piggybacking off the culture and symbols of another country is...

Even if technically true, I 100% support removing colonial/monarchical symbols wherever we can. What kind of a self respecting country pledges symbolic allegiance to a long-dead empire and a magic old guy in a castle in ANOTHER country? It's bootlicking, paternalistic, and it's frankly...

I think folks are overthinking this a bit...

I'll go half way and say that for the vast majority of people a subway car doesn't have to look "cool" but it has to look well maintained. Dirty, poorly maintained cars with graffiti etc. will turn off riders, and contribute to the perception that transit is something for "poor people" or those...

Value engineering. Bricks cost money and bricklayers cost even more money.

Maybe save some money and make it a zipline?

This whole thing has quietly become one of the most exciting developments in the city, just seems like great vision so far all around.

To be clear: the University Ave ROW + the park *is* a better option than this, so I'll fully agree with you there. Again my only fear is that if one mega-project's timeline gets bound up with another then in all reality it just means both get delayed even more ☹️ but yeah, as mentioned before...

Appreciate the link it's a great read! I believe Reece did a video covering the same material not long ago as well! I take the point that transit costs depend on lots of factors and it's reductive to boil it down to excessive litigation - but it never the less is *a* factor. I'm also certainly...

I may be jaded, but is this whole ordeal not just a perfect encapsulation of why it takes so much time and money to build anything in North America? How much ink has been spilled over 11 trees in a city of millions? How many lawyers have already made their year-end bonuses litigating this...

Based on this update, shovels look to be very much in the ground 😉