Bordercollie
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Finch West Line 6 LRT
- Thread starter Monarch Butterfly
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not_taylor
New Member
Just took Line 6 EB again today and noticed a significant speed improvement since the last time I used the service. Departed Humber College at 18:35 and arrived 19:08 at Finch West (33 min travel time). Only hit 3 reds (Albion, Jane, and Sentinel).
Operator also seemed much more comfortable operating the train and we hit line speed between nearly every station segment. It almost seemed like enhanced TSP was functioning given that signal after signal changed to green immediately in front of us.
Most noticeable issues with the speeds are now the slow performance around curves and the 25 limit through intersections, which is noticeably more strictly adhered to compared to streetcars/Line 5.
Operator also seemed much more comfortable operating the train and we hit line speed between nearly every station segment. It almost seemed like enhanced TSP was functioning given that signal after signal changed to green immediately in front of us.
Most noticeable issues with the speeds are now the slow performance around curves and the 25 limit through intersections, which is noticeably more strictly adhered to compared to streetcars/Line 5.
Milaisacat
Active Member
Agreed. It's infuriating to have operational policy dictated by the equivalent of an annoying university seminar debate over terminology that derails the whole class.
LRT = Tram = Streetcar.
Line design and operating plan is the whole ballgame. We don't have a different set of road rules for cars and horseless carriages, after all.
ey2470
New Member
Report on my Line 6 ride today after 7pm:
- Acceleration and braking were much more aggresive than a month ago, maybe even more so than on Line 5. The drivers seemed to be gunning it and we constantly hit 55-60km/h.
- TSP was there but it seems the timing was not adjusted to the improved schedule: we just missed the light a few times and needed to wait for the whole light cycle.
- 35km/h at intersections and 25km/h at stations.
- We came to a crawl at 5km/h west of Pearldale and stopped at Rowntree Mills station for more than a minute. We slowed again just before Martin Grove. I guess there is a slow zone in place west bound.
- Ride quality was fine on the westbound train but much worse on another eastbound train.
- Total travel time westbound from Finch West to Humber college was ~35 minutes including the slow down. Eastbound from Stevenson to Finch West was ~23 minutes.
Great improvents overall and I think it is realistic to get the line under 30 minutes if they lift the speed restrictions and fine tune the TSP.
- Acceleration and braking were much more aggresive than a month ago, maybe even more so than on Line 5. The drivers seemed to be gunning it and we constantly hit 55-60km/h.
- TSP was there but it seems the timing was not adjusted to the improved schedule: we just missed the light a few times and needed to wait for the whole light cycle.
- 35km/h at intersections and 25km/h at stations.
- We came to a crawl at 5km/h west of Pearldale and stopped at Rowntree Mills station for more than a minute. We slowed again just before Martin Grove. I guess there is a slow zone in place west bound.
- Ride quality was fine on the westbound train but much worse on another eastbound train.
- Total travel time westbound from Finch West to Humber college was ~35 minutes including the slow down. Eastbound from Stevenson to Finch West was ~23 minutes.
Great improvents overall and I think it is realistic to get the line under 30 minutes if they lift the speed restrictions and fine tune the TSP.
duffo
Active Member
It's wild how operator-specific this must be - I took it last week and it was 45 mins end to end, with many straight open sections that felt bewilderingly slow
NY99
Active Member
I do wonder... could one factor for the extreme bunching we see on some streetcar lines be a high variability in adherence to the TTC's outrageous operating standards?
Mihairokov
Senior Member
Yes, I really appreciate when a streetcar driver is noticably more aggressive with lights, especially on King where there is generally less traffic ahead or crossing.
adys123
Active Member
Oh this is definitely a factor, when schedules are excessively padded it definitely creates more operator variance than if they were more aggressively scheduled.
Burnt creek
Active Member
Glad to see point #5
5. Streetcar Stop Balancing: A network-wide review of streetcar stop spacing is in progress, informed by international benchmarks and accessibility best practices. Recommendations will align with future updated Service Standards.
For line 6 they need to at least try to get close to that standard benchmark of: # Stops = length of the line in Km's