Mihairokov
Senior Member
One derailment over 24 hours of record snowfall? I'd consider that a success. I was out watching the King streetcars whizz by last night and they seemed to have very little issue.
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nfitz
Superstar
Exactly! That's pretty much the only major incident. No damage and service was quickly restored. Meanwhile 501 service continued to run going around. I'd think those that advocate for subway are the ones with egg on their face today!
Streetcar derails at Queen and Coxwell
No injuries were reported after a streetcar derailed at Queen Street East and Coxwell Avenue.toronto.citynews.ca
I can't imagine just why anyone would complain about this. They were shovelling buses out of snow banks nearby for the last storm - and that never even made the news.
APTA-2048
Senior Member
Especially when you see how much buses struggled in the same time.
mrgrieves
Active Member
i thought they have special maintenance trains with plows that clear the lines. i cant imaging there's huge crews of works with shovels. can they not just keep running the maintenance trains?
asey20
New Member
Probably due to street cars using a catenary system whereas the subway uses third rail for power. I assume the issue would be with the train losing power on the outdoor section due to the third rail being covered in snow.
Knowing the TTC, it is probably also precautionary.
txlseries4
Active Member
In an update with the Mayor on the news, Josh Colle said TTC employees (believe he said "several hundred") are hand shovelling on the outdoor sections to get the subway back in operation. Also said they are (or were, last night) storing trains in the tunnels so that service in the morning could begin quicker.
T3G
Senior Member
Catenary tends to suffer more during ice storms. Streetcars all over the world tend to be fine when it's merely snowing.
Amare
Senior Member
Which is also something Mosaic employees should be doing as well, instead of you know Metrolinx paying them money to sit on their hands and do nothing so LRVs cant operate on Finch West.
A.Malik.77
New Member
Michael Lindsay called them out this morning on the radio. This is honestly a bit depressing. Maintenance should have been kept under public control. A whole LRT line is now dependant on the penny-pinching of a faceless consortium that will vanish into the air w/o any accountability.
urbanclient
Active Member
Gee, I wonder what line they practically forgot to procure equipment and allocate crews to unfreeze and clear snow on... What comes after 5?
mrgrieves
Active Member
will it be same story for Eg LRT?
JasonParis
Moderator
This snow event is on the same scale as 1999, when Mel famously called in the army. We shouldn’t judge the open-cut or outdoor sections of the network too harshly—there’s always room to learn and improve, but this is truly a once-in-a ~25-years event.
Mihairokov
Senior Member
Wasn't the 1999 event multiple days of sustained snow?
Anyway, the dunking on Toronto for calling in the army has always bugged me. The army should be helping places shovel out when there's substantial snowfall.
Northern Light
Superstar
Their contract should be terminated for cause.
I mean, even if the government's lawyers are idiots and didn't spell out maximum out-of-service times, there is a basic principle of common law that a contract is only valid if there is a meeting of the minds and an exchange of goods, services or money that a reasonable person could understandably agree to....
No reasonable person would accept that a reasonable standard is a train line that's been out of service almost as much as its been in service. Terminate the contract.
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APTA-2048
Senior Member
People often forget or don’t know that the main reason was emergency services were pretty much paralyzed. If I recall correctly, there was at least one death attributed to a delay in emergency services getting to them.