micheal_can
Senior Member
If we assume that they go both directions, that is 68 flights one way, or 136 flights both ways.
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Alto - High Speed Rail (Toronto-Quebec City)
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blaixx
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Earlier this year, the CEO of Alto said the following:
“No other stops are being developed as we speak,” Imbleau said in response to The Intelligencer’s questions.
“The seven stops were actually decided quite a long time ago. It’s within a mandate that that we got from the government,” he said.
Things can obviously change and there will of course be political pressure to add more stations but for now it seems like 1 stop per city is the plan.
Canada's high-speed rail line won't stop between Peterborough and Ottawa, official says
Canada’s high-speed rail line will not stop between Peterborough and Ottawa and no additional stops are planned, a senior official says.
www.intelligencer.ca
micheal_can
Senior Member
With a line like this, adding infill stations may be easy enough so long as the area for a station is available.Earlier this year, the CEO of Alto said the following:
“No other stops are being developed as we speak,” Imbleau said in response to The Intelligencer’s questions.
“The seven stops were actually decided quite a long time ago. It’s within a mandate that that we got from the government,” he said.
Things can obviously change and there will of course be political pressure to add more stations but for now it seems like 1 stop per city is the plan.
Canada's high-speed rail line won't stop between Peterborough and Ottawa, official says
Canada’s high-speed rail line will not stop between Peterborough and Ottawa and no additional stops are planned, a senior official says.
kEiThZ
Superstar
Earlier this year, the CEO of Alto said the following:
“No other stops are being developed as we speak,” Imbleau said in response to The Intelligencer’s questions.
“The seven stops were actually decided quite a long time ago. It’s within a mandate that that we got from the government,” he said.
Things can obviously change and there will of course be political pressure to add more stations but for now it seems like 1 stop per city is the plan.
Canada's high-speed rail line won't stop between Peterborough and Ottawa, official says
Canada’s high-speed rail line will not stop between Peterborough and Ottawa and no additional stops are planned, a senior official says.
I don't buy it. I think the word "stop" is a bit dubious here. And I think that's a statement meant to dissuade political pressure to add service to places like Madoc. That's actually the gist of the article posted. Fully expect we'll see a lot more clarity as plans develop. Saying there's no station between Union and Peterborough, a gap of 100+ km with over a million people living en route? That would be ignorant. I can't see partners like SNCF saying this is a good idea.
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kEiThZ
Superstar
When HSR is built, there will be a strong case to close YTZ. And I say this as somebody who has defended YTZ continuously for decades on this forum.
Really depends on whether there's air-rail integration at Trudeau. If there's no service at Dorval, as per rumour with the northern route, this won't happen.
crs1026
Superstar
Sliding in a suburban stop at some later date is probably a no brainer and politically benign. As you suggest, the bigger need for the moment is to take the wind out of the sails of any small town booster who thinks they can rabble rouse their way into a stop for their crossroads town. That can’t be allowed.
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micheal_can
Senior Member
Maybe it gets downgraded to just a GA airport. I am sure that would please most people. It would mean no jets, and less flights. It would also mean a GA airport close to Toronto.
Why does an airport connection need to exist for HSR? Unless you are coming from a different city to fly out of that other city,the connection with HSR seems irrelevant. By the time this opens, they will all have rail to their airports from the HSR train station.
ARG1
Senior Member
I don't think so, although it really depends on how Canadian-American relations look like a decade from now. Whilst YTZ is nice for flights to Ottawa/Montreal, I'd very much argue that its value lies into more medium distance trips particularly to major North-Eastern American cities such as NYC, Chicago, DC, and Boston. This will especially be true when they finally get preclearance up and running at YTZ.
Woodbridge_Heights
Senior Member
Jets are already barred from ytz..
micheal_can
Senior Member
I know. Porter has been trying to change that without much luck. ALTO could secure that ban.
Northern Light
Superstar
We now know (publicly), that the service plans modeled out up to 72 daily trains in the corridor. (total, when both direction of travel are considered)
www.ctvnews.ca
The base service plan modeled was hourly, but with departures up to every 30 minutes as demand warrants. According to Alto reps.
Though, if you map the 30 trains, per direction between Montreal and Toronto quoted in the article, you get 30 minute departures on a 15-hour span of service (6am-9pm)
The additional runs to get to 72, presumably are Montreal-QC, and/or partial corridor runs.
From the above:
There, that gives @reaperexpress something to do with his free time, LOL I'm always here to help with that.
Toronto—Quebec City high-speed rail could see dozens of daily trains: documents
A planned high-speed rail project between Toronto and Quebec City could dramatically increase the number of trains that travel along the corridor each day, according to internal documents.
www.ctvnews.ca
The base service plan modeled was hourly, but with departures up to every 30 minutes as demand warrants. According to Alto reps.
Though, if you map the 30 trains, per direction between Montreal and Toronto quoted in the article, you get 30 minute departures on a 15-hour span of service (6am-9pm)
The additional runs to get to 72, presumably are Montreal-QC, and/or partial corridor runs.
From the above:
There, that gives @reaperexpress something to do with his free time, LOL I'm always here to help with that.
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Bordercollie
Senior Member
So to meet those departures from Ottawa to Montreal would we be negotiating more track slots to meet those trains in Ottawa from Toronto and to Montreal from Quebec?We now know (publicly), that the service plans modeled out up 72 daily trains in the corridor. (total, when both direction of travel are considered)
Toronto—Quebec City high-speed rail could see dozens of daily trains: documents
A planned high-speed rail project between Toronto and Quebec City could dramatically increase the number of trains that travel along the corridor each day, according to internal documents.
The base service plan modeled was hourly, but with departures up to every 30 minutes as demand warrants. According to Alto reps.
Though, if you map the 30 trains, per direction between Montreal and Toronto quoted in the article, you get 30 minute departures on a 15-hour span of service (6am-9pm)
The additional runs to get to 72, presumably are Montreal-QC, and/or partial corridor runs.
From the above:
View attachment 703885
There, that gives @reaperexpress something to do with his free time, LOL I'm always here to help with that.
Otherwise it's just an island
generalcanada
Senior Member
Oh cool express trains, thats going to add like 20 pages of discussion until january LOLWe now know (publicly), that the service plans modeled out up 72 daily trains in the corridor. (total, when both direction of travel are considered)
Toronto—Quebec City high-speed rail could see dozens of daily trains: documents
A planned high-speed rail project between Toronto and Quebec City could dramatically increase the number of trains that travel along the corridor each day, according to internal documents.
The base service plan modeled was hourly, but with departures up to every 30 minutes as demand warrants. According to Alto reps.
Though, if you map the 30 trains, per direction between Montreal and Toronto quoted in the article, you get 30 minute departures on a 15-hour span of service (6am-9pm)
The additional runs to get to 72, presumably are Montreal-QC, and/or partial corridor runs.
From the above:
View attachment 703885
There, that gives @reaperexpress something to do with his free time, LOL I'm always here to help with that.
hw621
Senior Member
Construction of the first segment to start in 2029? And no funding for the whole line yet? I won't hold my breath.
micheal_can
Senior Member
I am guessing that the 72 trains a day is when the entire route is open. There are no slots available to add more service.