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[Monarch Butterfly]

I have a question:
How will the Eglinton Crosstown affect traffic/ traffic lights at the at grade sections in the east? Will they be raised or tunneled at intersections such as Leslie, Don Mills, VP, Pharmacy, Warden, etc?

In theory, they will have "transit priority".

However, I think that it'll mean single-occupant vehicles making left turns will still get priority, followed by everyone going straight. They may delay the green light for everyone going straight, if there is a LRV train coming or crossing the intersection, but that's it.

The traffic signal lights are the responsibility of the roads department. For them, it means any vehicle are their outmost obligation, no matter how many actual people are inside. So even if one Flexity Freedom car carries 250 people (and a train of three cars carries 750 people), they are still count as only one vehicle to the roads department. So the three single-occupant cars making a left turn have a higher priority for them than a LRV of 250, because there are more vehicles.

The roads department could have experimented with setting up a proper transit priority system on The Queensway, but no. Instead, they forced the streetcars to go slow (7 km/h) at the intersections, wait for cars making left turns, and wait with the other motor vehicles. The "go slow" signs have been removed, but they still have not set up a real transit priority, unless they delayed the green signal. However, it doesn't look like they did.

I hope that by the time the Eglinton Crosstown LRT and the other LRT routes open, that there will be real transit priority.

 

[BurlOak]

It will be tunneled to Don Mills and Kennedy. All other intersections will be at-grade.

To be more correct; "It will be tunneled AT Don Mills and Kennedy. All other intersections will be at-grade."

And Wynford will retain the overpass, so the LRT will not interfere with traffic on Wynford, but the pedestrians will affect traffic on Eglinton.

 

[Johnny Au]

There will be Michigan lefts as well, which would speed traffic up considerably.

 

[Monarch Butterfly]

There will be Michigan lefts as well, which would speed traffic up considerably.

Images of a Michigan left turn intersection:

 

[Monarch Butterfly]

And bicyclists could use a left turn box.

 

[Monarch Butterfly]

Or to save money (don't we all), let's do without any traffic lights, signs, or lane markings at all.

[video=youtube_share;NX41Vzfda1Y]http://youtu.be/NX41Vzfda1Y[/video]

 

[junctionist]

The Michigan left is 'vernacular' road design. It's ubiquitous in Michigan but quite rare outside of the state. It tends to require a huge right of way for the roadway and is mostly confined to suburbs that are so car dependent that arterial roads don't even have sidewalks.

 

[Uncle Teddy]

I'd like the Addis Ababa version

 

[ehlow]

There should be no doubt left that there will be a new transit line on Eglinton after tonight

 

[DonValleyRainbow]

There should be no doubt left that there will be a new transit line on Eglinton after tonight

I think the next question is (not if, but) when they will proceed with Phase 2 (to the airport). It's part of the Big Move under the 15-year plan, so that's giving it by 2021.

 

[CharmAlarm]

Tunnel boring update:

http://www.thecrosstown.ca/progress/track-the-tunnel-boring-machine

 

[gweed123]

I think the next question is (not if, but) when they will proceed with Phase 2 (to the airport). It's part of the Big Move under the 15-year plan, so that's giving it by 2021.

I think that will wait until the municipal election. Tory has something in mind for that western corridor, so that may still be up in the air. But yes, it is pretty much a given that we will have rapid transit on the majority of Eglinton.

 

[Solid Snake]

I think the next question is (not if, but) when they will proceed with Phase 2 (to the airport). It's part of the Big Move under the 15-year plan, so that's giving it by 2021.

The other question worth asking is:

Will Metrolinx (majority Liberal) cave to local councillors demands? I could understand a minority government caving to local councillors silly requests like the Leslie stop but now they have a majority. They might (hopefully) revert to the original Leslie plan and just ignore those councillors determined to hijack that line.

 

[ehlow]

The other question worth asking is:

Will Metrolinx (majority Liberal) cave to local councillors demands? I could understand a minority government caving to local councillors silly requests like the Leslie stop but now they have a majority. They might (hopefully) revert to the original Leslie plan and just ignore those councillors determined to hijack that line.

The launch shaft has already begun construction between Brentcliffe and Leslie. I don't think the election results affects this, but even if it did it's too late.

 

[nfitz]

I think the next question is (not if, but) when they will proceed with Phase 2 (to the airport). It's part of the Big Move under the 15-year plan, so that's giving it by 2021.

The original Big Move was in 2008, so 15 years would have given them until 2023. However it's still in the 15-year plan of the 2013 revision, so that's 2028 ... (funny how that works!).