Toronto Eglinton Line 5 | ?m | ?s | Metrolinx | Arcadis

[rbt]

On frequent routes, sure. But when it only comes every 20 minutes or 30 minutes, the printed schedule (and TTC sticking to it), is very useful.

Schedules on frequent routes are more about not paying overtime than customer satisfaction purposes.

If the driver is at the wrong end of the route at the end of the day that either means sending them home early (before that run in the wrong direction) or paying them overtime to take the bus to the garage or hand-off to another driver.

 

[sixrings]

http://www.thestar.com/business/art...urned-into-virtual-grocery-store-shelves?bn=1

 

[Monarch Butterfly]

You can download the PDF for Caledonia Station at this link.

You can afterwards do the survey at this link.

 

[EnviroTO]

http://www.thestar.com/business/art...urned-into-virtual-grocery-store-shelves?bn=1

Well.ca did that recently at Union Station to see what kind of a market exists for that type of service.

 

[EnviroTO]

You can download the PDF for Caledonia Station at this link

That takes the definition of secondary entrance to a whole new level. How many flights of stairs is that?

 

[Dan416]

Shouldn't it be closer to Caledonia? Or does that not bother anyone else?

 

[sixrings]

my main concern was how it connected with the GO... as a result I am happy... Same rules apply for weston

 

[valkoholic]

My dumb question - If this is just an lrt line, why do the stations all need concourses? Can't people walk over the tracks like they do at Queens Quay and in Boston? Wouldn't that save a ton of money?

 

[nfitz]

My dumb question - If this is just an lrt line, why do the stations all need concourses? Can't people walk over the tracks like they do at Queens Quay and in Boston? Wouldn't that save a ton of money?

For Queens Quay, there are 2 side platforms. These all have 1 centre platform. So walking over the tracks doesn't have much point. Not sure what concourses have to do with it ... that's a function of the required depth of the station more than anything else.

That secondary entrance is something ...a spiral staircase might work better ... though there's probably some H&S reason you can't do that these days.

 

[car4041]

Shouldn't it be closer to Caledonia? Or does that not bother anyone else?

I guess they chose that location because they can build the station box there without disrupting the road? I suppose the connection to the shopping centre could be useful, but not if it's just a huge staircase as shown.

If it was instead located east of the GO line, it could have entrances at the GO station and at Caledonia itself, and the Lansdowne bus wouldn't have to make a little jog over to the station and back, which is going to add running time. The station would be more evenly spaced between Keele and Dufferin too. But oh well...I'm sure they considered all of this in their choice.

 

[junctionist]

Shouldn't it be closer to Caledonia? Or does that not bother anyone else?

Yes, that seems strange. The station looks more focused on connecting with the future GO station rather than Caledonia Road, its namesake. Just the bus loop at the east end of the station is two blocks from Caledonia. The secondary entrance seems unrefined, lacking a walkway to Eglinton in the site plan and having too many flights of stairs. I'm not a fan of the form of the interior spaces, either. One should be able to see at least one level down as one moves towards the platform; it can make navigation easier. One may hope that the pavilion architecture and landscaping is a lot better than what's shown in these preliminary presentations, because the glass boxes as shown aren't very interesting and lack placemaking potential.

 

[EnviroTO]

My dumb question - If this is just an lrt line, why do the stations all need concourses? Can't people walk over the tracks like they do at Queens Quay and in Boston? Wouldn't that save a ton of money?

There is talk of automated operation within the tunnel at some point and with trains of 6 cars the speed reductions required would be noticeable. They probably would avoid the Queens Quay design if possible but with the high water table and sharp curve south of the station slowing the speed of the streetcars anyways it probably just didn't make fiscal sense.

 

[ShonTron]

I guess they chose that location because they can build the station box there without disrupting the road? I suppose the connection to the shopping centre could be useful, but not if it's just a huge staircase as shown.

It looks like the main entrance will have east and west entries, so I imagine all traffic will use the main station box (which is designed well for the GO connection). It looks to me that the secondary entrance - required due to fire codes - will be merely an emergency exit. Not a bad circulation plan, actually, just an unusually deep station.

 

[car4041]

It looks like the main entrance will have east and west entries, so I imagine all traffic will use the main station box (which is designed well for the GO connection). It looks to me that the secondary entrance - required due to fire codes - will be merely an emergency exit.

Don't think so -- they refer to it as an "entrance", not an emergency exit, and the floorplan shows a fare gateline. (Though yes, I imagine that anyone who knows how many stairs there are will avoid it and use the main entrance.)

 

[Voltz]

Don't think so -- they refer to it as an "entrance", not an emergency exit, and the floorplan shows a fare gateline. (Though yes, I imagine that anyone who knows how many stairs there are will avoid it and use the main entrance.)

Well really they need two separate pathways from the platform to the surface, since the secondary pathway has to be built anyway then they might as well allow people to use it as an entrance/exit, instead of just in emergencies. The other stations have more useful secondary entrances, due to their respective locations.