miWay Transit

[drum118]

Aug 18
Here some photos of the new bus only ramp off Hurontario that can only be used by 40' buses. 60' buses must use Sq One Dr......Daaaa!!

 

[ShonTron]

Why is it that only 40-foot buses (or 12-metre for those metrically inclined) can use the lane? Artics (60-foot, translates to 18-metre) have slightly better turning radii.

What's with the blocked-off part of the ramp? Is that for buses coming off the transitway? Will artics then be able to use the bus lane (one would hope!)? I would have also wanted to see transit signals (black signal heads) like those the TTC and Brampton use for their exclusive phases rather than the awkward standard signals at Centre View and Rathburn.

 

[drum118]

Sept Changes

Service Changes - September 6, 2011 ROUTE CHANGES IN MEADOWVALE
10 - Bristol Britannia - Monday to Sunday
Shortened routing will travel daily between the City Centre Transit Terminal and the Meadowvale Town Centre. Buses will depart stops approximately every 20 minutes during weekday rush hours, every 30 minutes during non-rush hours, every 30 minutes on Saturdays and every 40 minutes on Sundays.

Route 10 will no longer service Copenhagen Loop or Meadowvale GO Station. Customers travelling beyond the Meadowvale Town Centre (to either Copenhagen Rd.or Meadowvale GO Station) can transfer onto the new Route 90-Terragar-Copenhagen Loop or Route 44-Mississauga respectively.

45 - Winston Churchill / 45A - Winston Churchill-Speakman - Monday to Sunday
Shortened routing on Route 45 and 45A will travel between the Clarkson GO Station and the Meadowvale Town Centre. The south end routing on Route 45 (via Royal Windsor Drive) and Route 45A (Speakman Drive) will be maintained. Buses will depart stops approximately every 16 minutes during weekday rush hours, every 30 minutes during non-rush hours, and every 45 minutes on Saturdays and Sundays.

Route 45/45A will no longer service the TerragarBlvd./Rosehurst Dr. Loop or Financial Drive. Customers travelling beyond the Meadowvale Town Centre (to either Terragar Blvd./Rosehurst Dr. Loop or Financial Drive) can transfer onto the new Route 90-Terragar-Copenhagen Loop or Route 42-Derry respectively.

90 - Terragar-Copenhagen Loop - Monday to Saturday

A new local route providing Monday to Saturday service from the Copenhagen/Montevideo and Terragar/Rosehurst areas to Meadowvale Town Centre. This route will also serve customers travelling to and from the Meadowvale GO Station during rush hours. Buses will depart stops approximately every 21 minutes during weekday rush hours, every 35 minutes during non-rush hours, and every 35 minutes on Saturdays.

Due to a low ridership demand, Sunday service along the Copenhagen Loop has been cancelled.

The schedule and route map are available online.

MAJOR CHANGES TO ROUTE 19 - HURONTARIO
Beginning September 6, 2011, Route 19-Hurontario will no longer travel to and from the Brampton Shoppers World Terminal. Instead, Route 19 will end at the Hurontario Street & Highway 407 GO Bus Park and Ride facility, where customers can transfer to the Brampton Transit Route 2-Main service.

This major change to the route will help reinforce service along Hurontario Street in Mississauga, between Britannia Road and the Port Credit GO Station where ridership demand is greatest. On weekdays, Route 19A-Hurontario-Britannia and 19B-Hurontario-Cantay will continue to service the employment districts along Britannia Road and Cantay Road.

On Saturdays, a new Route 19C-Hurontario-Heartland will service the Heartland Centre providing customers with direct access to this major shopping district.

For information on service levels, visit miway.ca/hurontario.

MORE EXPRESS SERVICE MORE OFTEN ON HURONTARIO STREET
Introducing more frequent service, extended service hours and additional weekend service in the Hurontario-Main Street corridor for customers travelling between Mississauga and Brampton.

MiWay and Brampton Transit are working together to launch two new Express services between Mississauga and Brampton to help grow ridership in support of a future light rail transit (LRT) system along the Hurontario-Main Street corridor.

For information on service levels, visit miway.ca/hurontario.

103 - Hurontario Express - Monday to Saturday

All day service on Route 103-Hurontario Express will be provided by blue MiExpress buses from Monday to Saturday. Route 103 will travel between the Port Credit GO Station in Mississauga and Shoppers World Terminal in Brampton, bypassing the City Centre Transit Terminal to reduce travel times for customers.

The schedule and route map are available online. New on-street signage will be installed at bus stops along the route.

502 - Züm Main (Brampton Transit) - Monday to Sunday

Route 502-Züm Main will travel all day, seven days a week, between Sandalwood Parkway in Brampton and the City Centre Transit Terminal in Mississauga, via the Brampton Shoppers World Terminal.

The schedule and route map are available online at www.bramptontransit.com. New on-street signage will be installed at bus stops along the route.

102 - InterCity Express - Weekday

Service ends due to the introduction of MiWay Route 103-Hurontario Express and Brampton Transit Route 502-Züm Main. These new routes will deliver more express service, more often, on the Hurontario-Main Street corridor.

202 - Hurontario - Monday to Saturday

Service ends due to the introduction of MiWay Route 103-Hurontario Express and Brampton Transit Route 502-Züm Main. These new routes will deliver more express service, more often, on the Hurontario-Main Street corridor.
EFFECTIVE SEPTEMBER 6, 2011 BUS STOP CHANGES AT THE CITY CENTRE AND MEADOWVALE TOWN CENTRE TRANSIT TERMINALS. SCHEDULE CHANGES FOR IMPROVED SERVICE
Please check up-to-date departures online
3 - Bloor - Weekday

Midday service frequency improves – buses will now depart stops approximately every 16 minutes, rather than every 19 minutes.

4 - Sherway Gardens - Weekday

The Huron Park Loop area, including Paisley Boulevard west of Mavis Road, will no longer be served by this route before 6:30 am and after 9:30 pm.

5 - Dixie - Weekday

The 10:49 pm northbound trip from the Long Branch GO Station will now depart at 10:52 pm to improve connections with GO Trains.

15 - Drew - Weekday
Departure times between Derry Road/Airport Road and Brandon Gate Drive have been revised on four short trips along this route. The 5:13 am short trip from Derry Road at Hull Street (STOP #2320) will now depart at 5:10 am.

15A - Drew-Brampton - Weekday
The 6:08 am departure from Shoppers World (STOP #2610) will be replaced by a new 6:13 am eastbound departure from the Hurontario Street & Highway 407 GO Bus Park and Ride facility (STOP #2182).

22 - Finch - Weekday

Regular service frequencies will be restored to serve more customers during the academic year. Buses will depart stops approximately every 13 minutes during core hours.

29 - Park Royal - Weekday

The 11:09 pm southbound trip from Clarkson GO Station (STOP #4508) will now depart at 11:15 pm to improve connections with other routes.

30 - Woodbine - Weekday

The 12:00 pm westbound trip from Woodbine Centre (STOP #2923) will now depart at 11:58 am to arrive at Derry Road at Goreway Drive (STOP #2987) at 12:02 pm for improved connections with Route 42-Derry.

34 - Credit Valley - Sunday

A new eastbound trip will depart from Erin Mills Town Centre (STOP #3402) at 10:27 pm.

44 - Mississauga Road - Weekday

Weekday schedules have been revised in both directions for better connections to and from the Meadowvale Town Centre (STOP #2244) and the Meadowvale GO Station (STOP #1226).

88 - Wonderland - Saturday and Sunday

Weekday service ends. Fall weekend service begins - visit miway.ca/wonderland for details.

101 - Dundas Express - Weekday

The first eastbound, afternoon trip will depart from the University of Toronto Mississauga campus (STOP #0910) at 2:23 pm.
SERVICE TO HIGH SCHOOLS RESUMES ON SEPT. 6, 2011
Visit miway.ca for route maps and schedules for these school routes:

• 301 Philip Pocock-Tomken
• 302 Philip Pocock-Bloor
• 303 Father Goetz-City Centre
• 304 Father Goetz-Mississauga Valley
• 305 Streetsville Secondary-Falconer
• 306 Streetsville Secondary-City Centre
• 307 Philip Pocock-Bloor East
• 308 St. Joseph-Eglinton
• 309 St. Joseph-Rathburn
• 310 Clarkson Secondary-Winston Churchill
• 311 John Cabot-City Centre
• 312 Gordon Graydon-City Centre
• 313 Streetsville Secondary-Meadowvale TC
• 314 Rick Hansen-Donway
• 315 Rick Hansen-City Centre
• 316 St. Francis Xavier-City Centre
• 317 Clarkson Secondary-Erindale
• 318 Cawthra Secondary-City Centre
• 319 Port Credit Secondary-City Centre
• 320 Cawthra Secondary-Lorne Park
• 321 Stephen Lewis-Joan of Arc
• 328 Cawthra Secondary-Bloor
• 334 St. Joseph-City Centre
• 335 - Allan A.Martin

336 - Lorne Park Secondary-Clarkson - Weekday

A new school route that departs from the Port Credit GO Station (STOP #0314) at 7:52 am, and travels west to Lorne Park Secondary School and the Clarkson GO Station.
HOLIDAY SERVICE
Labour Day, Monday Sept. 5, 2011 - Sunday schedule (August)
Thanksgiving Day, Monday Oct. 10, 2011 - Sunday schedule (September)
BUS STOP CHANGES TO BETTER SERVE CUSTOMERS
For details, visit www.miway.ca/busstopchanges.
View/Print miTRANSIT - September edition PDF
NEXT SERVICE CHANGE - Oct. 24, 2011.

All information is subject to change without notice.

 

[aleesia]

Not bad.

The biggest gain in this service change is route 45. The cut at 45 makes sense as 45A is already redundant with 42 and 57 for the Financial area. 45 will now get 30-minute midday service instead of 38. And also, increasing Saturday service will balance the frequencies for the weekends as 45 only gets 60 minute service during Saturdays, yet at Sundays, they get 45-minute service.

3 getting midday increase is good news out there, making it as frequent as Burnhamthorpe.

4's cut at Huron Park during the said times make sense as the facility is closed outside of those hours.

10 is getting 26-27 minute midday service, not 30.

The added trip at 101 is good news since "rush hour" at UTM actually starts at 2 pm.

21-minute rush hour service for Terragar is good as they receive horrible 35-minute rush hour service today. 90's Sunday cut for Copenhagen is a little sad, but they gotta pack those Saturday buses to justify bringing them back. Also 90 gets 40-minute midday service, not the advertised 35 minutes, making it as "frequent" as 65.

 

[doady]

I'm not impressed with the routing of the 90 - it is a far cry from the 16 and 36. The loop probably should just have been merged with the overly short and under-utilized 48.

The improvement for 10 is minimal at best, but for great for 45. The previous service cuts have been reversed (45 had 45 minute frequency on Saturdays before). I'm surprised service to Financial has been cut, but I guess it's kind of redundant with the 42 and 57.

The 103 still annoys me a lot. It should be 102, or better yet just remain 202 and designate it and 201 as Express as they should have been all along.

 

[Frankie1984]

So this new transfer rule that they are implementing, I am confused about...

As of the 6th, I would no longer be able to swap my MT transfer for a Oakville Transit/Brampton Transit one and vice versa.

Is that correct?

 

[RedRocket191]

So this new transfer rule that they are implementing, I am confused about...

As of the 6th, I would no longer be able to swap my MT transfer for a Oakville Transit/Brampton Transit one and vice versa.

Is that correct?

When you present an Oakville or Brampton transfer to a Mississauga driver you can board but you cannot get a new one.

When you present a Mississauga transfer to an Oakville driver you can board but you cannot get a new one.

When you present a Mississauga transfer to a Brampton you can board but you it does not say what happens next (safe to assume that you will not be able to get a new one.

Best bet is to get a GTA weekly pass or use a PRESTO card where a you can freely transfer and continue your trip until your time is up (did it today, worked fine in situations where they were very clear that a paper transfer would NOT work).

 

[doady]

Not issuing new transfer is not a big deal, that's the way it should be. The thing is, they accept other system's transfers at any location on any route??? Is this a new policy? I thought it was just where the service connect or overlap.

And apparently MT, Burlington Transit and HSR accept each other's transfers. I seriously didn't know that.

But I wonder why MT will not accept Brampton Transit passes but they will still accept Oakville Transit passes. Maybe there is some behind the scene conflict we don't know about.

 

[ShonTron]

When you present an Oakville or Brampton transfer to a Mississauga driver you can board but you cannot get a new one.

When you present a Mississauga transfer to an Oakville driver you can board but you cannot get a new one.

When you present a Mississauga transfer to a Brampton you can board but you it does not say what happens next (safe to assume that you will not be able to get a new one.

Best bet is to get a GTA weekly pass or use a PRESTO card where a you can freely transfer and continue your trip until your time is up (did it today, worked fine in situations where they were very clear that a paper transfer would NOT work).

The simple answer to Frankie: No. The swaps stop. What it will mean is that if you have a Brampton transfer, hold on to it when boarding Mississauga Transit; it will be accepted on a second MT bus as long as time remains on it.

The advice to get a GTA pass is ridiculous. They are bloody expensive and they are only great for going between TTC (that will not enter any transfer agreement) and 905 systems. The alternative of buying GTA passes should not be offered as sop by Mississauga Transit because they unilaterally decided not to allow their passholders to continue to enjoy transfer benefits to Brampton Transit (including their new 502 service that replaces MT's 102) or Oakville. Note Brampton will still offer transfers to passholders to get the free transfer to Mississauga.

Though Presto is useful; but it does not solve the passholder's new conundrum.

 

[doady]

The problem with passes is that they are only accepted where the two systems intersect. For the return trip, the rider will still need to pay the fare of the other system, which makes the pass pretty useless anyways. So no matter what, there's still a major problem. One system's transit pass would only be useful for regular cross-border travel if both systems accept that pass on any route at any location.

Personally, I think the each system other accepting each others systems' transfers anywhere without restrictions is good, but they should have done the same for passes.

 

[aleesia]

Hurontario service realignment and Square One platform shuffle started today!

What I found out today:

Reactions
- Despite the month-long promotion, a few Mississauga passengers got frustrated when they took the 19, which doesn't go to Brampton anymore.
- Many 103 passengers thought that the route was 102 extended to Port Credit, leaving them disappointed when it bypassed the Rathburn ramp. They were dropped off at Robert Speck.

Help/Wayfinding
- MiWay representatives were running around the terminal to check if someone is at the wrong platform. During my time, a passenger was waiting for the 26 at where the MiExpress and Zum buses stop.
- Peel Police was at Square One to assist passengers with the shuffle and Zum.
- MiWay signs served by 502 (including Square One) also have the route affixed to it with a red background.

Loading
- 103 carries a perfect load, even during the midday! Was totally surprised about that.
- 19+ had a significantly lighter load north of Square One. Many passengers migrated to 502 (other than the passholders).

Scheduling
- 103 had no idling and slowing down. Really impressed with that.
- The increase in the 19 is not noticeable, because it is already very frequent.

Other routes
- Passengers in the 20 (notably the seniors) looked at one another when the bus turned right at Centre View Drive.
- 66 was understandable as it has to be near the Sheridan Mississauga campus.
- The overcrowding at 110 is not surprising.

 

[drum118]

You need to read the whole budget report to see where service needs to be cut as well
increase. This will be the 12th year in a role that MT riders have seen fare
increase with very little in the way of service improvement.

I support the staff report and planning on making a few recommendations for
service cuts/changes. I will also be making recommendations where service needs
to improve to gain new ridership.

The full breakdown for MT routes are listed for 7 days of the week and to bad
TTC does not do this.

Route ranking has not change much over the years to what we have today.

A fair number of routes ridership are about the same, as there is no place for
growth for them due to low density development area in the first place. These
areas are very old and the NIMBY's refused to increase the density in the first
place.

http://www.mississauga.ca/file/COM/2011budgetagenda_september21.pdf

 

[Ravager]

I also confused! Is the Mississauga Light Rail Transit still happening?

Or will it be a Buses Now?

 

[drum118]

I also confused! Is the Mississauga Light Rail Transit still happening?

Or will it be a Buses Now?

I expect not to see LRT until 2030 now and have to deal with this stupid plan for 19.

The contract for the consultant should be awarded now hopeful, to start the 2.5 year EA studies for the LRT.

The earliest you could see construction started on this LRT is 2015 if funding is found and would start at the 407, since that is the location of the carhouse.

Brampton would see service first follow by Sq One and then Port Credit.

 

[AlvinofDiaspar]

http://www.thestar.com/news/article/1057665--mississauga-to-hike-transit-fares

Does anyone know what are the 8 routes got cut?

AoD