Russian-Ukrainian War (2022- )

[nightstreak]

Decades maybe, but centuries seems highly doubtful. I know there used to be a time when they were considered "brotherhood", and I'm pretty sure it wasn't centuries ago, if not until 2014 then at least until 1990 or so.

I’m afraid that you’ve misinterpreted “brotherhood”. Russians have long considered Ukraine as a little brother in a pejorative sense to imply a hierarchical, subordinate relationship where Russia is the "elder brother".

Malorossiya ”Little Russia” is the counterbalance to Great Russia, and dates back to the Tsarist-era as an administrative term for Ukrainian lands, implying that they’re subordinates to Russia, as Maloross or lesser Russians.

 

[evandyk]

My wife is Russian. Her family came here in the 1980s, and they certainly think of Ukrainians as fellow peoples ("brotherhood" for lack of a better term). They are profoundly ashamed of Russia right now.

 

[afransen]

My wife is Russian. Her family came here in the 1980s, and they certainly think of Ukrainians as fellow peoples ("brotherhood" for lack of a better term). They are profoundly ashamed of Russia right now.

Maybe along the lines of commonwealth for us (like Australia/NZ). Culturally a lot of similarities, with some important differences.

 

[narduch]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2037617382001143902

 

[Admiral Beez]

My wife is Russian. Her family came here in the 1980s, and they certainly think of Ukrainians as fellow peoples

My wife is Ukrainian-Canadian, her grandparents having fled the Holodomor. She’d likely tell your Russian wife to shove any notion of cultural fellowship. When every Russian has left Ukraine dead or alive, when the Ukrainian children stolen by your wife’s people are returned, and compensation is paid for the damage to Ukrainian lives and property, then there can be talk of “fellow peoples”.

Maybe along the lines of commonwealth for us (like Australia/NZ). Culturally a lot of similarities, with some important differences.

When Canada or Australia invades New Zealand and declares that NZ does not exist, and kidnaps Kiwi kids, etc. that analogy would work.

One day we may see a warming of relations between Russia and Ukraine, similar to how postwar Germany and Israel overcame the horrors of the Holocaust and one could argue grew closer because of that shared experience. But this war has if anything made Ukrainians a separate nation, with a renewed language, culture, purpose and identity. I can’t foresee a renewed brotherhood with Russia, because the latter’s combination of arrogance, superiority complex and compensatory grandiosity will never allow Russians to see Ukrainians as equals.

 

[DSCToronto]

From Economist:

 

[Full Metal Junkie]

Over the last week they've had a number of successful deep strikes on Russian oil export infrastructure. They have reportedly shut down 40% of Russian oil exports

Some updates on Ukrainian deep strikes against Russian oil exports.

Over the last week, Ukraine has continuously bombed Primorsk and Ust-Luga oil offloading ports. New successful strikes have been reported every other day. The satellite images of the resulting damage is quite something:

https://twitter.com/x/status/2039005391451808096

Concrete data starting to roll in. Here are some stats on the impact to the Russian oil exports:

https://twitter.com/x/status/2039023456868594009

Interesting to see what Ukraine have been using to achieve this. In addition to sending hundreds of shahed-style one-way attack drones every night, for these port strikes they also used retrofitted civilian aviation aircraft.
Basically, they are outfitting Ukrainian-made Aeroprakt A-22 ultralight aircraft with autonomous flight capabilities and strapping a bunch of 100kg freefalling bombs to them.

Here is an example of such a Frankenplane that sunk a Russian warship a week ago:

https://twitter.com/x/status/2036766340581564835

 

[Towered]

 

[81-717]

Glory to Ukraine for putting them out of their misery.

My wife is Ukrainian-Canadian, her grandparents having fled the Holodomor. She’d likely tell your Russian wife to shove any notion of cultural fellowship. When every Russian has left Ukraine dead or alive, when the Ukrainian children stolen by your wife’s people are returned, and compensation is paid for the damage to Ukrainian lives and property, then there can be talk of “fellow peoples”.

Thought this video's worth sharing (albeit being a couple years old), an example of Ukraine showing compassion:

 

[DSCToronto]

I’m afraid that you’ve misinterpreted “brotherhood”. Russians have long considered Ukraine as a little brother in a pejorative sense to imply a hierarchical, subordinate relationship where Russia is the "elder brother".

Malorossiya ”Little Russia” is the counterbalance to Great Russia, and dates back to the Tsarist-era as an administrative term for Ukrainian lands, implying that they’re subordinates to Russia, as Maloross or lesser Russians.

Similar to the use of Belarus which is closely related with the term Belaya Rus', i.e., White Rus'.

 

[Admiral Beez]

US supporting Putin against Ukraine again.

In bid to boost Orban, Vance to visit Hungary ahead of vote

Hungary's Prime Minister Viktor Orban faces his toughest election yet and is turning to global allies. US Vice President JD Vance is expected in Budapest days before the April 12 election.

www.dw.com

Sending one of the globe's least popular politician (at least Trump has his supporters) to visit Orban does nothing to help his cause with Hungarian voters.

 

[Full Metal Junkie]

US supporting Putin against Ukraine again.

In bid to boost Orban, Vance to visit Hungary ahead of vote

Hungary's Prime Minister Viktor Orban faces his toughest election yet and is turning to global allies. US Vice President JD Vance is expected in Budapest days before the April 12 election.

www.dw.com

Sending one of the globe's least popular politician (at least Trump has his supporters) to visit Orban does nothing to help his cause with Hungarian voters.

Russia is also helping Orban out with their usual election shenanigans. Obviously the Hungarian social media spaces are awash with Russian bots spreading misinformation. But they also just ran a false flag operation over the weekend:

Serbian intelligence chief says Ukraine not involved in explosives plot

It’s “not true that the Ukrainians tried to organize” alleged sabotage plot, Serbia says.

www.politico.eu

They planted a bomb at a gas pipeline that supplies Serbia and Hungary with Russian natural gas in an attempt to frame Ukraine for it. The problem for them was that sources in the Hungarian security services have leaked the entire false flag plan to the media days before, yet they still went ahead with the plan.

 

[evandyk]

My wife is Ukrainian-Canadian, her grandparents having fled the Holodomor. She’d likely tell your Russian wife to shove any notion of cultural fellowship. When every Russian has left Ukraine dead or alive, when the Ukrainian children stolen by your wife’s people are returned, and compensation is paid for the damage to Ukrainian lives and property, then there can be talk of “fellow peoples”.

My wife's family fled the Soviet Union the moment they were allowed to, so I'll admit that they're probably not in the median of your stereotypical Russian viewpoint.

 

[Full Metal Junkie]

Did someone say MORE???

Ask and you shall receive!

(Don't mind the ugly naked guy in the foreground, he's been photoshopped onto this very real picture of the current state of Russian oil exporting facilities)

New strikes on the oil ports over the weekend. This time Ukrainian drones paid a visit to the port city of Novorossiysk on the coast of the Black Sea.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2040909563843563671

Oil offloading infrastructure seen burning here:

source

Fresh satellite imagery shows the extent of damage (oil spills, all port activity seized):

https://twitter.com/x/status/2041185504381546558

To add insult to injury, Ukrainians keep tormenting the remnants of the Russian Black Sea naval fleet cowering in the Novorossiysk port. A frigate was struck in the attack:

https://twitter.com/x/status/2041100980494708878

To repel this attack, Russians even deployed their latest and greatest in air defense, but alas...

source

 

[Richard White]

Russia is also helping Orban out with their usual election shenanigans. Obviously the Hungarian social media spaces are awash with Russian bots spreading misinformation. But they also just ran a false flag operation over the weekend:

Serbian intelligence chief says Ukraine not involved in explosives plot

It’s “not true that the Ukrainians tried to organize” alleged sabotage plot, Serbia says.

www.politico.eu

They planted a bomb at a gas pipeline that supplies Serbia and Hungary with Russian natural gas in an attempt to frame Ukraine for it. The problem for them was that sources in the Hungarian security services have leaked the entire false flag plan to the media days before, yet they still went ahead with the plan.

Honestly, he is scared. Tisza is gaining momentum and there is a good chance he will win a majority. Fingers crossed it is a supermajority