UtakataNoAnnex
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I get that. I am not really sure what this has to do with provincially here outside of that extreme hate on being one sided. Nor would anyone stoop that low voicing their views against Doug I gather. And we wouldn’t need to.
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Premier Doug Ford's Ontario
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CMQSD402F9011
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When PP became leader of the CPC, he unleashed allot of hate or attack tweets and FB posts against Trudeau and some of his CPC MPs did the same like Larry Brock. Ford got none of that from anyone at Queens Park.
UtakataNoAnnex
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Yes, what was done here was horrible. Even worse, many voters were buying it…despite all evidence out there that they should have stayed clear of it. I mean, if it’s waving “I am with the fascists” flag…we as a country priding ourselves on freedom and democracy shouldn't be going there regardless of how asinine the current sitting government at the time is. We should never want to vote for the worst of the worst…
…that said, I still don’t know what this has to do with Doug outside of saying, “Of course it is!” /sigh
Admiral Beez
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If Ford thinks post secondary students should focus on STEM, healthcare and the skilled trades, why not keep the OSAP grants for programs in those fields? Also, the provincial government could look at limiting tuition increases in such fields. Students will then be financially incentivized to consider them.A couple of very large announcements out of the province today. I'll give them each their own post so people can quote more easily.
First up, post-secondary funding, the province is more or less making Universities and colleges whole from past underfunding and the loss foreign students.
Ontario Newsroom
news.ontario.ca
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Quick highlights: Funding gaps resolved, tuition to rise by 2% per year for the next 3 years, and by inflation or 2% whichever is less thereafter, and OSAP restructured to be 75% loan, minimum and 25% grant maximum.
zang
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Because that would make sense. But I've my suspicions that Ford's motives have always been more about decimating universities than actually focusing on trades and college-only education.
narduch
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They only want the rich to get university education.
They want the poors to go into the trades
They want the poors to go into the trades
DSCToronto
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Admiral Beez
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You think people working in skilled trades are poor?
Highest Paying Trades in Canada of 2026 | CourseCompare.ca
Earning a living working with your hands, solving problems on the fly, and being the only person on-site who can fix things are some of the most rewarding jobs you can have. Now, as more …
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There has long been a stigma associated with the trades that it is for poor and/or uneducated people. I worked in adult education, including pre-apprenticeship training, for a long time, and we tried valiantly to encourage schools and individuals to take a good look at the trades because yes, the work can be quite lucrative. It also isn't for uneducated people -- you need a significant skill set to qualify for an apprenticeship. Everyone wants their kid to be a doctor or a lawyer when they should really consider the trades -- a successful tradesperson is a good thing!
narduch
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That's not what I said.You think people working in skilled trades are poor?
Highest Paying Trades in Canada of 2026 | CourseCompare.ca
Earning a living working with your hands, solving problems on the fly, and being the only person on-site who can fix things are some of the most rewarding jobs you can have. Now, as more …
Monarch Butterfly
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An example of a trades millionaire...
From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Holmes#Background
Mike Holmes began learning construction from his father starting when he was six years old. By the time he was 19, Holmes had started his first contracting company with a crew of 13 employees. At 21, Holmes founded his own renovation company. He has run two companies during his 20-year contracting career.
Well, Mike is the extreme, lol. But I certainly know a number of electricians, plumbers, HVAC, carpenters etc who have done quite well. It's hard, physical labour, but it's a great career. Unfortunately, it's been difficult to get Ontario governments truly on side.
Admiral Beez
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I was chatting with my female friend about this today, and they said there's nothing she likes more than a man with calloused hands and no debt. So, if you're into the ladies fellas, the trades might be your in.
Just please wear a belt, no one wants to see a coin operated tradesman.
Rather sexist comment there, Admiral. There are also female tradespeople.
Admiral Beez
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Hey, I'll tell my next door neighbour to cut out the sauciness. But I didn't think to caution her at the time, rather I laughed as we shoveled together.
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