Toronto 250 Roehampton Avenue | 199.71m | 59s | Starlight | BDP Quadrangle

[Northern Light]

This new to the AIC application seeks to knock down an existing 11s rental apartment building near Mt. Pleasant/Eglinton and replace it with a new 59s rental apartment building.

Site, as it is, per the Planning Report:

The app is currently only visible in the Old AIC:

http://app.toronto.ca/AIC/index.do?folderRsn=5752545

From the above:

Site Plan:

Ground Floor Plan:

Typical Floor layout:

Stats:

Elevator Ratio: 6 elevators to 711 units or 1 elevator per 118 units

Block Context Plan:

Comments: The height is top-of-the-mark aggressive as an ask. In exchange, I would really like to see the studio units nixed entirely in favour of more family sized units, and about 1/2 the 1 bdrms enlarged.

The typical layout above could convert one 2 bdrm to 3; and the 2 smaller ones into a two, or two larger ones.

@Paclo ; @HousingNowTO

Edit to add: Tenants were told the prospective timeline was to begin construction in 2029.

 

[Paclo]

Massing & context:

 

[jmi22]

If only there were century old two storey buildings across the street that could be sold by homeowners and developed, instead of displacing hundreds of people with no choice in the matter. Surely our benevolent planning regime would NEVER allow such a thing like this to be the outcome if that other option existed, have you heard all the equity statements recited at the start of their meetings??

 

[mferna]

Read our article on this development here.

 

[Amare]

If only there were century old two storey buildings across the street that could be sold by homeowners and developed, instead of displacing hundreds of people with no choice in the matter. Surely our benevolent planning regime would NEVER allow such a thing like this to be the outcome if that other option existed, have you heard all the equity statements recited at the start of their meetings??

Thing is, we have a provincial government that has no idea what they are doing when it comes to housing.

The only thing they're concerned about is lining up $$$ for developers who contribute to the PC government fund, implementing idiotic government bills that make no sense, and issuing MZOs whenever they feel like it.

Im generalizing and not going into specifics because i'm honestly tired of this clown government and for the sake of this project's thread. But yeah, nothing is going to change anytime soon. In fact, it's likely to get even worse in ways we havent even imagined because Ford always gives the people what they never even asked for.

 

[cd concept]

I would of love to see more of this kind of antique looking style skyscraper proposal
in the downtown core !

 

[adma]

I wonder if Starlight's habit of wrecking the integrity of decent 50s/60s/70s buildings (paint job, glassy balconies) is deliberately meant to prime them for future redevelopment like here...

 

[busybeaver]

This seems like the epitome of dysfunctional ‘city planning’ and worst case embodied carbon emissions..demolish a recently renovated mid-rise displacing hundreds of tenants during a housing crisis ..meanwhile mere steps away on Roehampton are these scruffy little houses.

 

[citylights]

I wonder if Starlight's habit of wrecking the integrity of decent 50s/60s/70s buildings (paint job, glassy balconies) is deliberately meant to prime them for future redevelopment like here...

It's funny, these days you can pretty much tell that a building has the misfortune of being owned by Starlight based on its shoddy white-over-brick and black-over-balcony paint job.

That said, their overall strategy is more 'renovate and raise rents' than 'tear down and re-develop'.

 

[PL1]

That said, their overall strategy is more 'renovate and raise rents' than 'tear down and re-develop'.

Shareholder value trumps all... I don't agree it should, and I don't like it for housing

 

[Northern Light]

This seems like the epitome of dysfunctional ‘city planning’ and worst case embodied carbon emissions..demolish a recently renovated mid-rise displacing hundreds of tenants during a housing crisis ..meanwhile mere steps away on Roehampton are these scruffy little houses.

I don't disagree.

But just to let you know, those run-down properties are also set for redevelopment already, that thread is here:

808 Mt Pleasant | 204.55m | 61s | Reserve Properties | Sweeny &Co

Do you not feel the new as-of-right midrise zoning on large chunks of 'the avenues' will be advantageous in that regard? If not.........where do you see the challenge? **** The argument in favour of midrise (personal preferences aside) is lower risk profile, easier to finance, and get in and...

urbantoronto.ca

 

[adma]

It's funny, these days you can pretty much tell that a building has the misfortune of being owned by Starlight based on its shoddy white-over-brick and black-over-balcony paint job.

That said, their overall strategy is more 'renovate and raise rents' than 'tear down and re-develop'.

But the fact that said "renovate" is so tawdry in execution indicates that one might lead logically into the other. Like, to take more of a "restoration" approach rather than treating the old as something "dated" that requires "freshening up" could be even *more* of a raising-rents alibi (or not)--but by treating the existing property as a "classic", it runs the risk of preempting demolition and redevelopment...

 

[busybeaver]

I don't disagree.

But just to let you know, those run-down properties are also set for redevelopment already, that thread is here:

808 Mt Pleasant | 204.55m | 61s | Reserve Properties | Sweeny &Co

Do you not feel the new as-of-right midrise zoning on large chunks of 'the avenues' will be advantageous in that regard? If not.........where do you see the challenge? **** The argument in favour of midrise (personal preferences aside) is lower risk profile, easier to finance, and get in and...

urbantoronto.ca

that's good but I would rather see affordable housing and/or cooperatives built here than yet another condo..

 

[Northern Light]

that's good but I would rather see affordable housing and/or cooperatives built here than yet another condo..

Right, but this proposal isn't a condo; its rental.

I'm all in favour of more affordable housing, and coops, but government will have to fund that, that's a separate matter.

 

[busybeaver]

Right, but this proposal isn't a condo; its rental.

I'm all in favour of more affordable housing, and coops, but government will have to fund that, that's a separate matter.

it's listed as a condo: 808 Mt Pleasant: proposed 61-storey mixed-use condominium building designed by Sweeny &Co Architects for Reserve Properties and Westdale Properties on the west side of Mt Pleasant Road, north of Eglinton Avenue East in Midtown Toronto.