T3G
Senior Member
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So it's fine if people can vote and at 18 and can drive and join the army at 16, but drinking at 18 is where we draw the line?????????????????
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Premier Doug Ford's Ontario
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So it's fine if people can vote and at 18 and can drive and join the army at 16, but drinking at 18 is where we draw the line?????????????????
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Admiral Beez
Superstar
I’m not sure young people are drinking much at all anyway. My kids are now in their early 20s and don’t drink at all, preferring to meet their friends at board game cafes for hours-long DND sessions, or they pile into the local Popeyes. My one kid likes karaoke places with all their pals, but I’m told they’re all drinking nonalcoholics.
narduch
Senior Member
Didn't Ford make it so bars could start selling alcohol at 9am? I doubt he would change the night time closing to 11pm.
I've seen it argued that its better to have no cut off time at all. This way people don't all spill out of bars at the same time. They just leave when they want (or when the establishment wants to close).
Isn't a lot of this a bit moot now though? I'm in my 40's with a kid and my bar and clubbing days are long behind me, but isn't the scene basically dead now.
I've seen it argued that its better to have no cut off time at all. This way people don't all spill out of bars at the same time. They just leave when they want (or when the establishment wants to close).
Isn't a lot of this a bit moot now though? I'm in my 40's with a kid and my bar and clubbing days are long behind me, but isn't the scene basically dead now.
zang
Senior Member
I think young 905ers still partake in pretending like they're urbanites and getting blitzed on King Street West for their insta clout. And then there are the small-town wastoids who never grew out of it, and still hitting the local bars every Friday and Saturday night.
But yes, drinking in general (not just socially) is much lower in Millenials and younger.
Richard White
Senior Member
I'm 37 and I barely drink anymore.
When I was 18 and in my early 20s I used to chug vodka like water.
I once did Gene Simmons style tricks with a bottle of Everclear.
The thought of drinking 95% alcohol is no longer appealing.
zang
Senior Member
Drinking amongst Gen Z is so low it's actually constituting a problem:
One of Gen Z's habits is an 'existential threat' to restaurants, says Michelin-starred chef David Chang
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picard102
Senior Member
A problem for whom? Seems like a net benefit for society.
JasonParis
Moderator
At least give the municipalities the ability to set their closing-time. We could eve go the Iceland route where drinking hours are later Thursday/Friday through Saturday/Sunday.
zang
Senior Member
I don’t disagree. It does however require some course correction for bars, restaurants and venues.
Concert tickets and restaurant dishes prices take on the losses.
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Richard White
Senior Member
That sounds like more problems than it is worth.
Nothing worse than having hundreds, if not thousands of different rules across the province for the same thing. It will cause mass confusion.
JasonParis
Moderator
If the bartender cuts you off, where is the confusion? Still, a provincial mandate is likely best.
Richard White
Senior Member
If you are from Thunder Bay with a last call of 1 am and visit Toronto with a last call of 11 pm it can get confusing. You would not know the rules between places.
JasonParis
Moderator
I think if you were coming from TB to party in TO, you'd be quite aware. And even if you weren't, why is it an issue? A bar can close now at 23:00 if it so chooses. A 02:00 provincial last-call doesn't mean every bar will let you drink until 02:40 now regardess.
Richard White
Senior Member
My point was having different rules across the province can get confusing. You run the risk of getting in trouble without knowing it.
zang
Senior Member
The only “trouble” I see is not knowing the Toronto subway mostly shuts down before the bars do; something I personally learned at 19 and parked at Yorkdale for a concert at The Opera House. I’ll note that’s been the reality for a very long time.
Otherwise, getting cut off earlier seems more like just a different limit, and not anything that meaningfully throws a wrench in someone’s day.