TOtramz
Active Member
3 months of testing + additional 2 months of testing for good measure ?
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ryanbruins17
Active Member
September does seem like the best time to open this line. A pseudo new year. End of summer break for some means many people are going back to the routine. Making the newly opened line part of the routine fits. Hope it isn't delayed more!
Kyle Campbell
Senior Member
Well, that happened here in Ottawa with Line 2, but part of it was regulatory paperwork. I doubt that's needed in the crosstown case. But OC Transpo still needed a month for a dress rehearsal with actual passengers, (non-driver) staff training, etc.
T3G
Senior Member
And is there a compelling argument for waiting a little longer?
Why would they wait if they have no reason to? Let's be serious now.
nfitz
Superstar
Based on the crew scheduling, I don't see why it couldn't be the end of June.
But if September is the target, it would presumably be August 31 - as schools open early on September 2nd this year (Labour Day is September 1).
Which would be summer, not autumn. I'd think in general, opening something new at the beginning of September is better, and more natural, than early in the year.
Admiral Beez
Superstar
Will we ever be told the complete truth about what the delay was?
11th
Senior Member
You don't need to sound confrontational if you disagree.
However, here are responses to your examples. Yorkdale's wasn't a name change. Scarborough Centre was not named after the mall (which is called Scaborough Town Centre). York University is right in the middle of it and more than likely built to serve the university.
nfitz
Superstar
I don't see what's confrontational in that. Other than the act of actually replying.
TOtramz
Active Member
I just hope they have the line technically ready to open by July, so that they can just "stall" for 2 months and work out any kinks that may pop up.
allabootmatt
Senior Member
So, will there ever be a comprehensive explanation to the public of what went wrong? Obviously the persistent online rumors of unsolvable water problems were inaccurate, or the problems were solved.
More broadly, it feels like these projects have become too complex for their own good. Kind of reminds me of defense contracting, where designs for ships and planes etc are loaded up with so much theoretically useful tech that they become undeliverable, or impossible to maintain. The Yonge subway was designed and built with nothing more advanced than a slide rule, and has served the city very well for a long time.
Is there a case for radically simplifying how transit gets built?
More broadly, it feels like these projects have become too complex for their own good. Kind of reminds me of defense contracting, where designs for ships and planes etc are loaded up with so much theoretically useful tech that they become undeliverable, or impossible to maintain. The Yonge subway was designed and built with nothing more advanced than a slide rule, and has served the city very well for a long time.
Is there a case for radically simplifying how transit gets built?
DatTranzitGuy
Active Member
I wonder if we’ll get treated to a sneak peek at doors open this year
Aplus23
Active Member
So do we even have pics of Eglinton station yet?
T3G
Senior Member
What was confrontational about that? You offered an opinion, I offered a counter opinion. If we wanted to extract money out of CF in the name of accurate wayfinding, it's fair do's to question why we don't do that for all other names that refer to institutions.
How does this materially change the equation? If you have an objection to 'free advertising' this surely fits the bill, new name or no.
Semantics. If you called the station Fairview instead of Fairview Mall, you'll get the same result.
Don Mills, being right under Fairview Mall, is also not incidental to it.
officedweller
Senior Member
In Metro Vancouver, under regional planning, Burnaby has two regional town centres called "Brentwood Town Centre" and "Lougheed Town Centre" , each of which is centred on a SkyTrain station bearing those names.
Each station also has an adjacent shopping mall.
Brentwood Mall had changed its name to Brentwood Town Centre following the 2002ish arrival of SkyTrain, but has now rebranded to "The Amazing Brentwood".
Lougheed Mall had also changed its name to Lougheed Town Centre (I think), but has now rebranded to "The City of Lougheed".
I suspect that the new names were chosen to avoid confusion with the broader regional planning names.
Both are owned by the same developer - Shape Properties.
Also in Burnaby, Eaton Centre Metrotown and Metrotown Centre (both adjacent to SkyTrain's Metrotown Station) were rebranded as "Metropolis at Metrotown" when the malls were combined under common ownership (Ivanhoe Cambridge), which retains the distinction for the Metrotown regional town centre.
Each station also has an adjacent shopping mall.
Brentwood Mall had changed its name to Brentwood Town Centre following the 2002ish arrival of SkyTrain, but has now rebranded to "The Amazing Brentwood".
Lougheed Mall had also changed its name to Lougheed Town Centre (I think), but has now rebranded to "The City of Lougheed".
I suspect that the new names were chosen to avoid confusion with the broader regional planning names.
Both are owned by the same developer - Shape Properties.
Also in Burnaby, Eaton Centre Metrotown and Metrotown Centre (both adjacent to SkyTrain's Metrotown Station) were rebranded as "Metropolis at Metrotown" when the malls were combined under common ownership (Ivanhoe Cambridge), which retains the distinction for the Metrotown regional town centre.
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Kyle Campbell
Senior Member
Now is probably the time for the TTC/Metrolinx to come up with a naming policy that considers duplications. Just adding "West" or "North" might not cut it
Imagine if you had line 6 extend east. You'd have Don Mills, Don Mills North, and Don Mills Even more North
You could go the Chicago way and just embrace having multiple stations with the same name and add the cross street