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Toronto Eglinton Line 5 | ?m | ?s | Metrolinx | Arcadis

what do they need to do between now and april to start the 3 month countdown?
twiddle thumbs and move around the office in slow motion?
send contractors out to find needle in the haystack deficiencies?
revise and rehearse the opening day speeches?

its just scandalous how slow and inept they are.
 
what do they need to do between now and april to start the 3 month countdown?
twiddle thumbs and move around the office in slow motion?
send contractors out to find needle in the haystack deficiencies?
revise and rehearse the opening day speeches?

its just scandalous how slow and inept they are.

As noted in the Finch thread, the decision belongs to Mx, not the TTC.

The TTC's only requirement here is ~3 months notice so that schedules can be written and operators can sign up to operate the routes.

What Mx and the assorted consortia are up to........or not...........well........
 
what do they need to do between now and april to start the 3 month countdown?
twiddle thumbs and move around the office in slow motion?
send contractors out to find needle in the haystack deficiencies?
revise and rehearse the opening day speeches?

its just scandalous how slow and inept they are.
Why do you assume it's any of these highly populist ideas? For as much as you know, they could be doing legitimate works, but MX is so secretive, we'll never know.
 
Any chance that the province will wait until the Renforth to Mount Dennis extension is completed before switching on Line 5?
0% chance. That section is nowhere close to being operational. They just completed the tunneling, station construction hasnt even started yet. Not even talking about comms systems, OCS, etc.

And we havent accounted for the standard Metrolinx construction delay premium as well, so that section could very well be delayed in the future.
 
what frustrates many are the related infrastructure works that are complete and can open but are not just because its related to the ECT. take the intersection on eglinton just east of don mills. that has been complete for over a year and ready to switch on yet its being deliberately held off and now they even put barriers up to prevent drivers who dont want to get into the eglinton/don mills chaos from u turning out... theres no need to not open it... just pure buffoonery from toronto.
 
FWIW - someone in my network says May is a critical milestone. Other comments were, one station remains problemmatic. And the cost of removing all reference to the Science Center is getting silly (editorial digression - this is an example that proves the P3 "fixed price" model is unrealistic. Changing the name of a station post hoc, and hving to revise every bit of technical documentation as well as the physical wayfinding, is a "change order" in any construction contracting model. Ain't no way Crosslinx is swallowing that cost...ML will pay extra). Just grapevine level comments, but from a source I look to as an informed internal viewpoint..

- Paul
 
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FWIW - someone in my network says May is a critical milestone. Other comments were, one station remains problemmatic. And the cost of removing all reference to the Science Center is getting silly (editorial digression - this is an example that proves the P3 "fixed price" model is unrealistic. Changing the name of a station post hoc, and hving to revise every bit of technical documentation as well as the physical wayfinding, is a "change order" in any construction contracting model. Ain't no way Crosslinx is swallowing that cost...ML will pay extra). Just grapevine level comments, but from a source I look to as an informed internal viewpoint.
I"m sure the media would love to know what that final renaming cost is.

Perhaps it might just be cheaper to fix the current Science Centre so as not to need renaming the station. :)
 
FWIW - someone in my network says May is a critical milestone. Other comments were, one station remains problemmatic. And the cost of removing all reference to the Science Center is getting silly (editorial digression - this is an example that proves the P3 "fixed price" model is unrealistic. Changing the name of a station post hoc, and hving to revise every bit of technical documentation as well as the physical wayfinding, is a "change order" in any construction contracting model. Ain't no way Crosslinx is swallowing that cost...ML will pay extra). Just grapevine level comments, but from a source I look to as an informed internal viewpoint..

- Paul
well if anything changes like this fall beyond the scope of the fixed price model... fixed price is used to protect against cost escalation of what is agreed in the contract. the renaming of the science center station is additional to it so its an extra work that can be claimed. however to hold back on opening dates because of the renaming exercise is criminal if true...
 

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