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Cycling infrastructure (Separated bike lanes)

A motion was made to amend the report that updated the City on GO Expansion.

* I have cross-posted the below to the GO Construction thread *

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Admiral Beez said:
Nice! Parkside desperately needs slowing down. Really it shouldn't be seen as a viable route for commuters to get from Bloor to Lakeshore and the QEW/Gardiner.
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Why shouldn't it be a viable route for commuters? It's the only n-s route between Roncesvalles and Windermere. They should just do it more slowly and carefully.
 
Northern Light said:
Council has now spoken on the issue of Provincial Over-reach and Cycling Infra.

The following was adopted by Council:

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What is with the "Foolish Four" - Bradford, Crisanti, Mantas and, of course, Holyday.. As City Councillors one might have hoped they would put the needs of the CITY ahead of their provincial loyalties!
 
evandyk said:
Why shouldn't it be a viable route for commuters? It's the only n-s route between Roncesvalles and Windermere. They should just do it more slowly and carefully.
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Well yes, any n-s road in Toronto can be a commuter route, but IMO roads intended as commuter routes have speed limits of 40-50 kph and few traffic calming measures. In Nov 2021 the speed limit on Parkside Drive was reduced to 40 kph, and I would not be surprised if it's dropped to 30 kph. Once speed bumps , chicanes or other traffic calming measures are added the road will more resemble a residential street than a commuter thoroughfare. But again, you're right it will still be a viable commuter route, as most of the entire city can be seen as such. I live in Cabbagetown and our narrow, 30 kph roads with multiple stop signs and speed bumps are used by commuters every day as they try to fight their way from Bloor to the DVP.
 
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You don’t need to see them to know that the province can do this to the city. The last time the city tried to stick it to the province, the Supreme Court said that the province can change the size of city council in the middle of an ongoing election.
 
evandyk said:
You don’t need to see them to know that the province can do this to the city. The last time the city tried to stick it to the province, the Supreme Court said that the province can change the size of city council in the middle of an ongoing election.
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Not to stray too far off topic but the MPP who brought up the "high ratio" of Councilors to municipality size has a worse one that Toronto did at the time.
 
evandyk said:
Why shouldn't it be a viable route for commuters? It's the only n-s route between Roncesvalles and Windermere. They should just do it more slowly and carefully.
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Rather than removing an automobile lane, couldn't they just build/install a bike lane parallel to Parkside on the High Park side?
 
evandyk said:
Probably. It would be fairly expensive because there's a lot of sloping right next to the road in parts. And you'd have to cut down a lot of trees.
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At the same time, it is rather surprising that in this day and age, there's still no sidewalk on the west side. Despite being a very well used mud footpath where everyone walks.

Cut the (relatively few) trees and do it property. Heck, and throw in streetcar tracks from Howard Park to Keele at the same time, so that 506 has a proper terminus that connects more easily to the subway.
 
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