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Toronto Eglinton Line 5 | ?m | ?s | Metrolinx | Arcadis

Not surprised at the incompetent CM of this debacle, but still extremely disappointed.

Whoevers responsible cannot be hired back for the next project
I’m reminded of the track extension to the Leslie Street Barns where the builder forgot to make tracks at the correct height and had to tear them up.


What sort of monkeys are we graduating from Canadian engineering schools? Even I know the mantra of measure twice, cut once.
 
How will this affect the current southern end of the platform? Will the train just stop very far away from the south end? The elevator’s proximity to the southern wall prohibits putting up another wall.
In the PM I like going to the southernmost end because it’s much less crowded than the northern part (and doesn’t require three pedestrian crossings to access)…
For the time being, the trains will stop well away from the south end, although they will likely put in some sort of temporary barrier.

More permanently, there will be walls built separating the tracks from the old platform, but maintain that space to the public because of the elevator and the southernmost stairwell. And to that end, they've already starting cutting holes into the platform edge where they will be cutting it back and installing the walls.

Dan
 
Very good ones, actually.



Installation isn't Design. The engineers aren't the ones building it wrong.
They are when they oversee the work in the first place.

Have shot down a few engineers over the year and I don't have the ring
 
Sigh. We should have just built a 28km long Toronto Rocket subway from Renforth/Eglinton to Kennedy, fully underground, using TR rolling stock, high level platforms and signal systems we're already familiar with. At a total distance of 28,000 meters, if we'd starting tunnel boring in 2014 at a rate of 20 meters per day or 7,300 meters per year (40-50 meters per day is a more usual peak) we'd likely be in service by now.
 
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Sigh. We should have just built a 28km long Toronto Rocket subway from Renforth/Eglinton to Kennedy, fully underground, using TR rolling stock, high level platforms and signal systems we're already familiar with. At a total distance of 28,000 meters, if we'd starting tunnel boring in 2014 at a rate of 20 meters per day or 7,300 meters per year (40-50 meters per day is a more usual peak) we'd likely be in service by now.
Took 7 years to complete the TYSSE, roughly 9km
 
I’m reminded of the track extension to the Leslie Street Barns where the builder forgot to make tracks at the correct height and had to tear them up.


What sort of monkeys are we graduating from Canadian engineering schools? Even I know the mantra of measure twice, cut once.
In my type of work(installation of medical equipment, MRI, and Angio equipment especially) some engineers make so many stupid and costly designs choices that end up inflating the cost of a project, because in the end it's their signature that's stamped on those drawings, so it's basically liability.

Contractors have to follow the drawings because they could also face liability, if a massive issue arises.
 
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Very good ones, actually.



Installation isn't Design. The engineers aren't the ones building it wrong.
this is solely on the shoulders of the construction management team.
they failed to properly coordinate this work properly and now we are on the hook both in time and money to replace this at a snails pace.
sometimes things dont line up but its their jobs to verify on site and make sure everything is communicated properly. obviously this was not done
and it only took until now to do something about it.
 
this is solely on the shoulders of the construction management team.
they failed to properly coordinate this work properly and now we are on the hook both in time and money to replace this at a snails pace.
Sigh. We should have just built a 28km long Toronto Rocket subway from Renforth/Eglinton to Kennedy, fully underground, using TR rolling stock, high level platforms and signal systems we're already familiar with. At a total distance of 28,000 meters, if we'd starting tunnel boring in 2014 at a rate of 20 meters per day or 7,300 meters per year (40-50 meters per day is a more usual peak) we'd likely be in service by now.
MAYBE only if construction was managed by a competent private builder instead of ML and their usual suspects of incompetent CMs.
good luck seeing it open until closer to 2030
 
The repeatedly delayed and over-budget Eglinton Crosstown LRT is being held up by some 260 quality control issues and there is still no credible timeline for its completion, the head of Ontario's provincial transit agency said Thursday.

At an unrelated transit announcement in Toronto, Metrolinx CEO Phil Verster offered up his most detailed public explanation to date of the myriad problems plaguing the 25-stop, 19-km mega project. The light rail line was slated to finally open last fall after nearly 12 years of construction and multiple earlier delays.

"My biggest concern is that the quality is right and we get a safe transit system. We are building infrastructure here for the next 100, 150 years, and we've got to get it right," Verster said alongside Minister of Transportation Caroline Mulroney.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/eglinton-crosstown-delays-verster-metrolinx-1.6824272
 
The repeatedly delayed and over-budget Eglinton Crosstown LRT is being held up by some 260 quality control issues and there is still no credible timeline for its completion, the head of Ontario's provincial transit agency said Thursday.

At an unrelated transit announcement in Toronto, Metrolinx CEO Phil Verster offered up his most detailed public explanation to date of the myriad problems plaguing the 25-stop, 19-km mega project. The light rail line was slated to finally open last fall after nearly 12 years of construction and multiple earlier delays.

"My biggest concern is that the quality is right and we get a safe transit system. We are building infrastructure here for the next 100, 150 years, and we've got to get it right," Verster said alongside Minister of Transportation Caroline Mulroney.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/eglinton-crosstown-delays-verster-metrolinx-1.6824272
well at least theres SOMETHING mentioned in that theres 260 deficiencies... now come up with a plan to fix them and communicate it to the taxpayers!

"Similarly, CTS's own engineers must certify each part of the work is up to Metrolinx's stated quality standards — a process that is only 20 per cent complete"

coming from actually trying to coordinate with ML as part of my work, i can see why its taking so long. ML has some of the worst red tape processes ive ever experienced.
you cant talk to them directly, even for a simple question. everything must be done via written RFIs and that in itself is both arduous and complicated. their design requirements
are just endless books of word salads.
 
Sigh. We should have just built a 28km long Toronto Rocket subway from Renforth/Eglinton to Kennedy, fully underground, using TR rolling stock, high level platforms and signal systems we're already familiar with. At a total distance of 28,000 meters, if we'd starting tunnel boring in 2014 at a rate of 20 meters per day or 7,300 meters per year (40-50 meters per day is a more usual peak) we'd likely be in service by now.
There is nothing regarding a Subway line that is easier to build, the problems are within the underground section, where a subway would have more construction to deal with, because of ;larger and longer underground stations.
 

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