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[Contra]

Meanwhile, in San Francisco...

Note, the transit signals WITHOUT verbage sign clutter (required in Toronto, it seems)...

When I moved to San Francisco in 2016 this was already 6 years into the construction progress. Ended up opening 4 years later than expected right after I moved from SF! Was there this week for work and they've already moved it to limited service as downtown MUNI traffic is very very quiet.

 

[drum118]

When I moved to San Francisco in 2016 this was already 6 years into the construction progress. Ended up opening 4 years later than expected right after I moved from SF! Was there this week for work and they've already moved it to limited service as downtown MUNI traffic is very very quiet.

They also had some serious issues that delay the project and a few surprise found doing it that further delay the opening and increase the cost of doing it. There were poor sub work that had to be redone.

At least they are doing a soft opening by running weekends only until January with long headways. They should move to a full week schedule a few weeks before opening as there is a big difference between weekend and weekday service and ridership even though the fare is supposed to be free on the weekend.

You need to tell us how this is going and what issues you are seeing.

 

[TossYourJacket]

Based on the report on Ottawa, LRT systems, TTC is going to go very slow on testing the system to make sure they all their boxes are check off before even look coming up with an opening date.

One hopes that ML will doing their own testing during the coming winter months to see how the cars run, but since they are BBD cars in the first place similar to TTC Fleet, it shouldn't be an issues,

Finch LRV's are a different story.

When it open in 2023, it will open not when ppl think it should

Tbh slightly confused here. Finch LRVs are the ones from Ottawa, but are a different story than Ottawa when on Finch? Are you saying that it's due to the design of the line? Or that the trains should be fixed by now due to the mess in Ottawa?

But I do agree that there will be far more caution with the LRTs here than what OCTranspo did with the Confederation Line, cus god that was a disaster.

 

[drum118]

Tbh slightly confused here. Finch LRVs are the ones from Ottawa, but are a different story than Ottawa when on Finch? Are you saying that it's due to the design of the line? Or that the trains should be fixed by now due to the mess in Ottawa?

But I do agree that there will be far more caution with the LRTs here than what OCTranspo did with the Confederation Line, cus god that was a disaster.

Same supplier and almost the same design. One hope lesson learn doesn't repeat problems twice.

I am saying, double check Finch and Hurontario system and make sure they don't have Ottawa issue.

Very little in the way of curves for both lines as they are almost straight. Finch has more curves than Hurontario, but not as bad as Ottawa that I can recall seeing.

 

[Contra]

They also had some serious issues that delay the project and a few surprise found doing it that further delay the opening and increase the cost of doing it. There were poor sub work that had to be redone.

At least they are doing a soft opening by running weekends only until January with long headways. They should move to a full week schedule a few weeks before opening as there is a big difference between weekend and weekday service and ridership even though the fare is supposed to be free on the weekend.

You need to tell us how this is going and what issues you are seeing.

Not in SF anymore but looks like limited service is just to offer some free rides (and likely extra testing). Will report back if I hear anything from friends in the area but not a route most will need to use (it will be largely tourist traffic I suspect...)

 

[Scandi]

Do we have any word on how line 5 will appear on TTC subway maps? I remember they updated the maps with a hollowed out line for the line 1 Vaughan extension several months before it opened with the opening date next to it. I wonder if we’ll see something similar.

 

[EastYorkTTCFan]

Do we have any word on how line 5 will appear on TTC subway maps? I remember they updated the maps with a hollowed out line for the line 1 Vaughan extension several months before it opened with the opening date next to it. I wonder if we’ll see something similar.

The TTC has said that the maps will be updated for them but there will not be any lights on them except for the ones that exist. If you have ever seen the existing ones without the maps you can see that they only put them in for the stations that we know to exist at the time the Toronto Rocket trains were ordered.

 

[Allandale25]

Question asked near the end of this and the Minister said it'll open as soon as possible. Noted people frustrated. Safe operational as soon as possible. No specific date given.

 

[sacred]

Question asked near the end of this and the Minister said it'll open as soon as possible. Noted people frustrated. Safe operational as soon as possible. No specific date given.

23:00

 

[nfitz]

Do we have any word on how line 5 will appear on TTC subway maps? I remember they updated the maps with a hollowed out line for the line 1 Vaughan extension several months before it opened with the opening date next to it. I wonder if we’ll see something similar.

TTC has used various maps in their publications in the last few years. At the rate that Line 5 and 6 are going, I wouldn't be surprised if the next version adds both, but removes Line 3 (perhaps showing an express bus or something, similar to the 900).

Here's one TTC tweeted last year:

 

[Aplus23]

TTC has used various maps in their publications in the last few years. At the rate that Line 5 and 6 are going, I wouldn't be surprised if the next version adds both, but removes Line 3 (perhaps showing an express bus or something, similar to the 900).

Here's one TTC tweeted last year:

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Looking at this map, is the st clair streetcar able to be extended eastward, would that be even a good idea ? Looks like it's not too far away from the soon to be Ontario line

 

[nfitz]

Looking at this map, is the st clair streetcar able to be extended eastward, would that be even a good idea ? Looks like it's not too far away from the soon to be Ontario line

Not easily, with the Mud Creek and Yellow Creek ravines in the way. It's also further than it looks - about 6 km (the TTC map isn't to scale).

Though a routing down Mount Pleasant and then along the edge of the CP rail corridor (and Redway) to Millwood and along Overlea wouldn't be impossible. Though precious few riders between Mount Pleasant and Millwood. Along Moore/Southvale might work, but I don't see how it could be separate from traffic.

I've always fantasized about some kind of eastern 512 extension to Overlea/, and then across a new bridge (perhaps at Spanbridge) over the Don to St. Clair East, and along to Warden station (and perhaps even Scarborough GO), providing a great east-west link, where driving is very poor. But I don't think it's realistic.

I wonder if restoring and separating from traffic the Mount Pleasant streetcar up to Eglinton and Mount Pleasant station is feasible. There's some decent density along there.

 

[Dan416]

TTC has used various maps in their publications in the last few years. At the rate that Line 5 and 6 are going, I wouldn't be surprised if the next version adds both, but removes Line 3 (perhaps showing an express bus or something, similar to the 900).

Here's one TTC tweeted last year:

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I like the map but still hate many of the new station names (Pioneer Village, Cedarvale, Eglinton, Fairbank, Sheppard East if the Sheppard line ever reaches it)

 

[allengeorge]

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/confidential-documents-eglinton-crosstown-lrt-1.6675131

“The total cost of Toronto's Eglinton Crosstown project has increased by about $1 billion and the provincial agency overseeing it has raised concerns the consortium building the transit line hasn't offered a "credible plan" to complete it, according to confidential documents obtained exclusively by CBC Toronto. “

“About 98 per cent of the construction and engineering work is complete, according to the documents. Track and train testing is behind schedule with about 79 per cent of it done.”

“The documents show at some point the provincial agencies raised concerns about what they call "significant deficiencies" in some work completed”

 

[Amare]

^Some other notable notes from the article above:

Some specific issues are detailed, including concerns surrounding seepage that could lead to leaks and mould, and whether it's safe for the trains to operate along curves on the track.

Financial issues faced by one of the companies in the consortium could also hamper efforts to finish work, which could result in further delays, according to the documents.