EnviroTO
Senior Member
I'm sure the Eglinton Line will run at higher frequencies. 12min frequency at 8:45pm? The Sheppard Line is 6 min.
Toronto Eglinton Line 5 Crosstown West Extension | ?m | ?s | Metrolinx
- Thread starter W. K. Lis
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W. K. Lis
Superstar
It all comes back to the Toronto Transportation Department and other Who-Must-Not-Be-Named will be doing their best worst to make transit users miserable, but don't upset the single-occupant motorists.
ARG1
Senior Member
Emphasis on the word "can".
Also I don't know when that screenshot is from, it certainly isn't like this today. Its something like 3 minutes in the core section, and 6 minutes in the branches during most of the day.
ARG1
Senior Member
The problem is that the people pushing these LRTs are more concerned with "Urban Aesthetic" rather than functionality. The problem with things like boom gates is that they're ugly, noisy, and constrain movement of people. Remember, the goal is to try and replicate these types of pitch perfect urban boulevards from Europe that look great when taking a photo of them:
Unfortunately this typically doesn't really translate something that's great from an actual transportation perspective, especially in a city that's as transit deprived as Toronto.
Amare
Senior Member
Who knows, with the genius Rick Leary in the helm at the moment, the Bloor-Danforth line has been seeing service at every 8-9 mins in the evening peak. Something which i never would've thought we would see. Most attribute it to COVID operator shortage, however im still very skeptical.
robmausser
Senior Member
This is untrue. While the stations as-is cannot easily accommodate more than 3 car trains, the station boxes were made 150m in size for a reason. They can be modified with longer platforms, but it would require a lot of work. Its not as simple as knocking down the walls, but I spoke with MX and it is possible in case the line does see a huge increase in demand sometime in the distant future.
robmausser
Senior Member
Its been my experience that most USA cities that have LRT treat them better than we treat our LRT's in Canada. I was in Denver and Baltimore and every place the LRT ran (that wasn't street running, in a dedicated lane) had full traffic priority. Gates came down and stopped cars. The LRT never had to wait for cars.
felix123
Active Member
Agreed, and ditto for Seattle, one of the best LRTs I've ridden.
Amare
Senior Member
Please tell us more about how each station's service areas (ie: Mechanical rooms, electrical rooms, ventilation shafts, etc..) can be shifted to accommodate this. I would love to hear about how this could supposedly be done, maybe you've heard something we all havent heard yet.
Did Metrolinx secretly design for station boxes to be further expanded beyond the 150 metre footprint that most of us have been hearing about for all these years?
TRONto
Active Member
What was the service frequency? My understanding is that the frequency is terrible which lends itself to having gates and disrupting the normal traffic schedule.
W. K. Lis
Superstar
Why do you think they added service rooms and vent fans in the mezzaine level, (between the street level and the platform level)? Then there are possible unexcavated area beyond the station boxes, that could be dug out, if they become desperate. By "services", they could mean janitor rooms, which can be moved to the area under the steps and escalates in later years.
Amare
Senior Member
To those who believe that the stations can somehow accommodate 4 and 5 car trains, take a very close look at the time lapse video Metrolinx released. Then please tell us how it can be done:Why do you think they added service rooms and vent fans in the mezzaine level, (between the street level and the platform level)? Then there are possible unexcavated area beyond the station boxes, that could be dug out, if they become desperate. By "services", they could mean janitor rooms, which can be moved to the area under the steps and escalates in later years.
Steve X
Senior Member
I suppose if it is even possible. It’ll be like half a meter platform from the track with the room still largely blocking the middle.
crs1026
Senior Member
Don’t assume that the line beyond that end wall is perfectly flat straight and level. Or that it is easily minable without hitting utilities or foundations.
All it takes is for one station to be constrained to its existing length.
My understanding ( probably take me forever to find the citation, but I remember this clearly as I argued loudly back when the EA and early consultation was done) is that the stations cannot be lengthened after opening. What they give us is all we will get.
- Paul
All it takes is for one station to be constrained to its existing length.
My understanding ( probably take me forever to find the citation, but I remember this clearly as I argued loudly back when the EA and early consultation was done) is that the stations cannot be lengthened after opening. What they give us is all we will get.
- Paul
ARG1
Senior Member
Well we can pull an NYC and just have stations with extremely variable slopes, curves, and platform widths
