Toronto Eglinton Line 5 | ?m | ?s | Metrolinx | Arcadis

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Looks like Metrolinx' consultants royally screwed up as they duplicated 2 station names (something they were explicitly trying to avoid, which is why they paid their consultants millions to come up with dumb naming logics).

There's also Eglinton GO, which will famously not connect with either.

 

[Jane2021]

So when will they change the name of Eglinton West station to Cedarvale Station?

 

[ARG1]

So when will they change the name of Eglinton West station to Cedarvale Station?

When the line opens

 

[trtcttc]

Somehow I just realized there will be 2 Eglinton LRT stops in the GTA (1 for the Crosstown line, and 1 for the Hurontario line). Looks like Metrolinx' consultants royally screwed up as they duplicated 2 station names (something they were explicitly trying to avoid, which is why they paid their consultants millions to come up with dumb naming logics).

Now with respect to when the Crosstown will open, im hedging my bet on Jan 2023.

It’s funny how they need to pay consultants to name the stations after roads that are already there.
It’s also very confusing for anyone new to Toronto what these names mean, and they are rarely named after a landmark. (Queens Park being an exception). We should have a Eaton Centre station, a UofT station, etc. and not have 2 stations named Eglinton on in two different cities when there are going to be an entire line on Eglinton.

 

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Can't forget Eglinton GO

But...but...

There's also Eglinton GO, which will famously not connect with either.

 

[toronto647]

From the transcript (helpfully linked at the bottom of the blog post):

In an ideal world I would like the date announcement to be made by June so its before the provincial elections. As long as the line opens in 2022, I think that is a major win for everyone. Few more months to go wohooo.

 

[ARG1]

It’s funny how they need to pay consultants to name the stations after roads that are already there.
It’s also very confusing for anyone new to Toronto what these names mean, and they are rarely named after a landmark. (Queens Park being an exception). We should have a Eaton Centre station, a UofT station, etc. and not have 2 stations named Eglinton on in two different cities when there are going to be an entire line on Eglinton.

Honestly I disagree. While naming stations after landmarks is helpful, its far from necessary. Let's say you're a tourist and want to go to Casa Loma. What you will do is open an app like Google Maps, look for directions to Casa Loma, and it will tell you to go to Dupont Station. This is generally how people get around. Now I do agree that with ambiguous stations that exist in multiple places like Eglinton Station, ye they should probably be differentiated.

 

[Dan416]

Well that's why the method of using the names of the cross-streets works well, there's no ambiguity as to where the station is.

 

[Steve X]

Honestly I disagree. While naming stations after landmarks is helpful, its far from necessary. Let's say you're a tourist and want to go to Casa Loma. What you will do is open an app like Google Maps, look for directions to Casa Loma, and it will tell you to go to Dupont Station. This is generally how people get around. Now I do agree that with ambiguous stations that exist in multiple places like Eglinton Station, ye they should probably be differentiated.

The world has changed in the past 15 years. In year 2000, one would look at a map, try to locate their destination and their current location. They examine what options are available and create your trip. Having multiple stations with the same name or random names would be very troublesome.

Now, you just use your phone and punch it in google maps or an alternative to get an optimal trip. 99% is the time it would be able to tell you exactly which bus stop to wait at. Station names become less relevant.

 

[AlvinofDiaspar]

The less overlap between station names, the better in my books - and in the long run with multiple lines intersecting the same road it becomes untenable to use cardinal directions as identifier. You could use the exact intersection name (like NYC), but that becomes long and unwieldy.

AoD

 

[ARG1]

The less overlap between station names, the better in my books - and in the long run with multiple lines intersecting the same road it becomes untenable to use cardinal directions as identifier. You could use the exact intersection name (like NYC), but that becomes long and unwieldy.

AoD

Well obviously nobody asking that you have repeating station names, but at the same time calling a station "St. Andrew" instead of "Roy Thompson Hall" or "St. Patrick" instead of "Art Gallery of Ontario" is perfectly fine.

 

[AlvinofDiaspar]

Well obviously nobody asking that you have repeating station names, but at the same time calling a station "St. Andrew" instead of "Roy Thompson Hall" or "St. Patrick" instead of "Art Gallery of Ontario" is perfectly fine.

I have no issues with that either - I think neighbourhood and landmarks makes for great station names, it really isn't an either or.

AoD

 

[EastYorkTTCFan]

I have no issues with that either - I think neighbourhood and landmarks makes for great station names, it really isn't an either or.

AoD

I think they work if people know waht they are or actually asotiates something n the area with it. For example, Queens Park, Museum and Since Centre work however forest hill and Cedarvale don't because nobody in Toronto outside of those areas know them as such. asotiates trhe areas it would be like if they decided to name Mount Denis Kodak after the Kodak building there.

 

[Steve X]

I think they work if people know waht they are or actually asotiates something n the area with it. For example, Queens Park, Museum and Since Centre work however forest hill and Cedarvale don't because nobody in Toronto outside of those areas know them as such. asotiates trhe areas it would be like if they decided to name Mount Denis Kodak after the Kodak building there.

I'm pretty sure nobody knew where Old Mill, St George, Summerhill and Bessarion were before they got built by this logic. They are just minor local streets. If you ask an occasion rider to point out where is Summerhill, I would say they are most likely to get it wrong unless they pass by it everyday or is a geek. Summerhill is also the neighbourhood of that area. So what can you do?

People will just learn that Mount Dennis is a major hub. Just like Kipling, Kennedy and Finch. Do it matter that Kipling is located at Kipling south of Dundas or Kennedy is at Eglinton east of Kennedy? Only if they are driving it them but you'll still need to look at a map to know that as it's Kennedy Station NOT Kennedy-Eglinton Station or Kipling-Dundas Station.

This really isn't an issue to non transit enthusiast.

 

[EastYorkTTCFan]

I'm pretty sure nobody knew where Old Mill, St George, Summerhill and Bessarion were before they got built by this logic. They are just minor local streets. If you ask an occasion rider to point out where is Summerhill, I would say they are most likely to get it wrong unless they pass by it everyday or is a geek. Summerhill is also the neighbourhood of that area. So what can you do?

People will just learn that Mount Dennis is a major hub. Just like Kipling, Kennedy and Finch. Do it matter that Kipling is located at Kipling south of Dundas or Kennedy is at Eglinton east of Kennedy? Only if they are driving it them but you'll still need to look at a map to know that as it's Kennedy Station NOT Kennedy-Eglinton Station or Kipling-Dundas Station.

This really isn't an issue to non transit enthusiast.

Old Mill station was named after the nearby hotel which sits where a mill once was. St George along with St. Andrew were named for districts of the old city of Toronto. St George is also nearby to the St. George campus of the university of Toronto.