Toronto Eglinton Line 5 | ?m | ?s | Metrolinx | Arcadis

[toronto647]

Moody’s reported August 2022, FWIW. From the article.

I am confused... Is the target date

August 31, 2022 "The Moody’s document also states that CrossLinux, the private consortium assembled to finance and build the LRT, is working on a revised schedule that will see it complete by August 31, 2022."

or

"at the end of 2022”??

Source: https://granthshala.com/metrolinx-a...lete-crosstown-lrt-says-credit-rating-agency/

 

[Tuck]

Thousand bucks says it gets delayed to 2023.

 

[kingkam]

As I stated in previous post it won’t be 2022. It’s Q1 2023.

 

[allengeorge]

I am confused... Is the target date

August 31, 2022 "The Moody’s document also states that CrossLinux, the private consortium assembled to finance and build the LRT, is working on a revised schedule that will see it complete by August 31, 2022."

or

"at the end of 2022”??

So far all that's known is that it's "late 2022", but the two parties in the know (Metrolinx, Crosslinx) aren't saying a word about the actual target date they've agreed to as part of the settlement. The article states that's because they're waiting for both sides to approve it.

Moody's has reported a lot in this space (not sure why? maybe because they're reporting on debt taken on by the builders/province?) and their report has an Aug 31, 2022 timeline. YMMV.

 

[Johnny Au]

Fairbank station on November 23, 2021:

 

[superelevation]

The idea that this isn't high quality is baffling to me. It's a relatively small portion of the system in a relatively low density area...and it'll be connected to at least two subway at each end of the above ground portion.

There's already a subway extension going directly to STC.

This is the problem, just because the density decreases doesn't mean the speed and quality should decrease - quite the opposite - the low density areas are where you should have less stops so you can actually go fast and get to . . . the *dense* places. Nonetheless, both ends of our lovely surface tramway will be anchored with subway and / or regional rail interchanges - by making the connection between them slow a whole bunch of trips that people could have made (reducing travel time and improving their lives) won't be nearly as attractive. It's also really a lowest common denominator thing, this one section is going to drag on the whole line. That is the problem.

Don't forget that it was cut-and-cover for the Crosstown stations. Notice how disruptive it was just for those station intersections and emergency exits. Then imagine the same disruption expanded for the entire length.

Except building a tunnel can be incredibly fast. The segments are usually precast and rails etc are all laid after. Plus the stations on Eglinton are taking a long time to build because they are way too big (relative to the low capacity of the trains) and deep (thanks to the TBMs we are discussing). If it was all shallow ala Canada Line you could do in 4-5 years like Canada Line.

 

[xy3]

Aboveground like the skytrain wouldve been better and faster to build. And the trains would travel faster than on the surface level and not get stuck behind red lights.

 

[turini2]

Or you do what other major subway projects do... and build the stations at the same time as the tunnels - you dig the station box, tunnel boring machine passes through, and then you can build the station! Rather than the age between tunnelling being completed and the start of actual station construction on the Crosstown...

 

[hw621]

Wow 13 years for a streetcar line!

 

[nfitz]

Wow 13 years for a streetcar line!

It's the subway section that's the issue. Look at how quick the surface section was in Scarborough!

 

[Johnny Au]

Oakwood station on November 24, 2021:

 

[daniel_kryz]

Love the orange colour!

 

[Monarch Butterfly]

How's the installation of platform screen doors on Line 5 going? Strangely quiet compared with REM in Montréal.

Installation of platform screen doors for dynamic tests on the representative segment​

From link. Dated December 8, 2020.

This is the first time in North America that a public transit system of this size will be equipped with platform screen doors. Also called platform edge doors, these glass doors located along the station platforms, separating the platform from the tracks, open automatically and only when the metro is stopped at the station.

Platform screen door technology is used in large networks around the world, particularly in Paris, London and Tokyo where its many advantages have been demonstrated. For the REM, the use of platform screen doors offers many advantages: increased service reliability and safety, easier flow of passengers entering and exiting the metro cars, and minimized heat loss between the cars and the station.

The platform screen doors for the REM stations are installed using a modular platform specially designed for the project; an innovative and, above all, highly efficient installation technique. The modular platform, which moves on the rails, allows the platform screen door modules to be installed from outside the station platform, using two robotic arms. The result is an extremely precise installation, carried out in complete safety for workers following a door module pre-assembly process carried out in a factory in Montréal, Québec.

The use of platform screen doors will prevent objects from falling onto the tracks, which is a frequent cause of service slowdowns or interruptions. In the case of the Montréal metro, nearly 50% of service interruptions are caused by customer-related behaviour (people who are ill, doors held back, objects on the track, etc.).

Platform screen doors also prevent the piston effect caused by the rapid movement of trains (the airstream felt by passengers waiting on the platform and that can knock them off balance). This technology therefore prevents accidents and falls onto the tracks, but also unauthorized access, making travel safer.

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Meanwhile, in Toronto, where non-transit using powers-that-be make the decisions...

From link.

 

[syn]

It's the subway section that's the issue. Look at how quick the surface section was in Scarborough!

I'd add that it's a nearly 19km transit line, with at least half of it underground.

It's not like they were building a ROW on St Clair.

 

[EastYorkTTCFan]

How's the installation of platform screen doors on Line 5 going? Strangely quiet compared with REM in Montréal.

Installation of platform screen doors for dynamic tests on the representative segment​

From link. Dated December 8, 2020.

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Meanwhile, in Toronto, where non-transit using powers-that-be make the decisions...

From link.

They wern't part of the plan. Personally, I think the benefit of them is highly debatable and it seems to be something that some places embrace more than others for example in London only one section of a line has them and then even just opened a new section of aline and didn't use them on it. I think what we need to do is instead of just shifting the problem of people committing suicide by building barriers to it instead we should address it by trying to help more people who are mentally not well and need help.