Transportfan
Senior Member
Would have been a great line for those yellow TYSSE-opening advertising posters: Queen car to the 501 Queen Züm! Actually quite surprised it wasn't used.
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Would have been a great line for those yellow TYSSE-opening advertising posters: Queen car to the 501 Queen Züm! Actually quite surprised it wasn't used.
Steve X
Senior Member
I always think it is to mock the TTC. Our 501 Queen is way faster and better than yours. Rapid, reliable, A/C and comfort compared to the old ALRVs that broke down all the time while being roasted in a sweaty car full of crowded riders.
Don't get me wrong, I loved the ALRVs.
KhalilHeron
Active Member
Kennedy 
syn
Senior Member
I like what they've done with the stations on this line. They're clean, distinctive and should age well.
Richard White
Senior Member
syn
Senior Member
Undead
Senior Member
I used to take the Sheppard Line regularly a few years back and it wasn't anywhere near ghastly. No, it's not the Moscow metro, but they're good by Toronto standards.
Steve X
Senior Member
The concrete wall is so dull. What's worst is when they patch all over them before the line opens. Could they just paint over it? Nope, TTC doesn't know anything about aesthetics. I'm surprise ML is actually doing better. Maybe it is a good thing TTC is out of the subway building business.
kamira51
Active Member
yeah, just look at the TYSSE station platforms.
Jimvee
New Member
I think the subway stations have deteriorated a lot quicker since they stopped washing them due to run off concerns.
TheTigerMaster
Superstar
The design of the street-level buildings are nice, but the rest of the architectural design on the Crosstown is lazy. Especially at platform level, where we're getting the grey concrete treatment with the station name lazily tacked on, backed by some unimaginative artwork. This is only going to get worse as the concrete deteriorates and collects dust (and the concrete already looks like its in rough shape here).
And the design of the street-level stops is disgraceful. There are no redeeming qualities about this design. We're leaving people out in the wind and cold here. Even the YRT shelters are superior to this.
This is typical Toronto ultra-utilitarian architecture. If you want to see actually impressive, yet functional, architecture, look towards London's Crossrail.
I hope MX does better with the Ontario Line, but initial renters indicate that they're sticking with their lazy, yet functional design style.
And the design of the street-level stops is disgraceful. There are no redeeming qualities about this design. We're leaving people out in the wind and cold here. Even the YRT shelters are superior to this.
This is typical Toronto ultra-utilitarian architecture. If you want to see actually impressive, yet functional, architecture, look towards London's Crossrail.
I hope MX does better with the Ontario Line, but initial renters indicate that they're sticking with their lazy, yet functional design style.
dad pad
New Member
I think your objections are valid overall but Crossrail is an rung above metro and the Crosstown is a rung below so I don't believe that it is completely fair to compare the two
ARG1
Senior Member
I don't think that should matter. The Viva Rapidway as just a plain BRT but they put some money into making a templated stop design that looks absolutely fantastic, and major stations like VMC are phenomenal (granted I wish they instead put the money into running actually frequent service but eh). For some reason our politicians are building the nice stuff out in the suburbs meanwhile stuff built within the city of Toronto look horrible. Look no further than the DSBRT where the shelters over in Durham are these large enclosed shelters with heating and stuff, meanwhile as soon as the BRT crosses over into Toronto, the shelters get immediately reduced in scale and begin looking like what you'd find on Line 5 or 6.
drum118
Superstar
The different between Toronto and Durham shelters, Durham is exposing themselves to legal issues like Ottawa shelters. The roof needs to a a lot higher than what is shown as well the removal of post that are replace with an L support with the rear post taking the extra loading for supporting the roof.
NoahB
Active Member
Can you explain the reasoning behind the idea of roof design exposing the mentioned cities to 'legal issues'?