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salsa
Senior Member
The new staircase being built here will provide access to the Don Valley from Leslie & Eglinton.
W. K. Lis
Superstar
Towered
Senior Member
LOL! You expect foresight from planners in Toronto?
W. K. Lis
Superstar
Pedestrians, cyclists, the elderly, and the handicapped are afterthoughts for planners.
sixrings
Senior Member
All pedestrians are afterthoughts to Toronto planners.
Coolstar
Senior Member
That's what we get when the car is king here.
Amare
Senior Member
But yet the planning department and city councillors would tell everyone otherwise. Vision Zero, ActiveTO, Open Streets TO, and Bike Lane Expansions are all doing wonders to make our streets more pedestrian friendly 
W. K. Lis
Superstar
But yet the planning department and city councillors would tell everyone otherwise. Vision Zero, ActiveTO, Open Streets TO, and Bike Lane Expansions are all doing wonders to make our streets more pedestrian friendly
Except when compared with other cities such as Montreal or European Union cities.
salsa
Senior Member
I see that all the usual whiners and Toronto bashers are triggered again, this time over a silly staircase that you don't even know anything about.
If you try getting off the internet for a bit and spend some time out in some of the large parks within the region, you might notice that recently-built stairs (at least that I've seen) are a standardized design that is more or less exactly what you're calling for. I doubt this one here will be any different.
Location: Humber river at St Phillips Rd
Location: Escarpment trail, Hamilton
If you try getting off the internet for a bit and spend some time out in some of the large parks within the region, you might notice that recently-built stairs (at least that I've seen) are a standardized design that is more or less exactly what you're calling for. I doubt this one here will be any different.
Location: Humber river at St Phillips Rd
Location: Escarpment trail, Hamilton
Coolstar
Senior Member
Fair point. I always like to look at the positive side of transit but sometimes there are these little things that are hard to ignore.
W. K. Lis
Superstar
How are wheelchairs (electric wheelchairs) supposed to use them? Still a barrier.
crs1026
Senior Member
Sometimes it pays to spend a few minutes on Google to see if there is verifiable fact on something, instead of just making noise.
Here are the City of Toronto's guidelines for bicycle facilities. See item 3.2, Stairways
The link is to draft guidelines from 2008. The City seems to be promoting these on its web site, so I expect planners are generally aware of them. I would expect the wisdom of these somehow finds its way into any tender for new stairways that the City undertakes.
- Paul
Here are the City of Toronto's guidelines for bicycle facilities. See item 3.2, Stairways
The link is to draft guidelines from 2008. The City seems to be promoting these on its web site, so I expect planners are generally aware of them. I would expect the wisdom of these somehow finds its way into any tender for new stairways that the City undertakes.
- Paul
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robmausser
Senior Member
But yet the planning department and city councillors would tell everyone otherwise. Vision Zero, ActiveTO, Open Streets TO, and Bike Lane Expansions are all doing wonders to make our streets more pedestrian friendly
Yes, the 100km of 600km of the 2012 bikeway implementation plan that weve done, including adding and then removing the bike lanes on Jarvis.
