micheal_can
Senior Member
Aren't the new cars double ended?
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TTC: Streetcar Network
- Thread starter wolfewood
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Aren't the new cars double ended?
nfitz
Superstar
thettctransitfanatic
Senior Member
The only ones that will be double ended will be the LRVs on Eglinton as we all know. We are now stuck with single ended streetcars.
robmausser
Senior Member
the optional streetcars should be double ended to allow for a simpler setup in the Union tunnel for the Waterfront plans.
rbt
Senior Member
The option will not be used as per TTC board decision. Any new streetcars will be from a new, and at the moment unfunded, tender and can be for any specification desired.
W. K. Lis
Superstar
By "TTC board", you mean the members who do NOT use public transit. IE. Denzil Minnan-Wong (from link).
Ten things Denzil Minnan-Wong can’t live without
Rainforest
Senior Member
thettctransitfanatic
Senior Member
Metropass, or Presto Card, clearly didn't make it into his list of 10
Well what do you expect, I don't think Porches have a Presto reader in them.
W. K. Lis
Superstar
DO NOT make the Green P meters accept Presto.
nfitz
Superstar
If they could access the stored cash portion of the card, without having to phone home, that would speed up transactions significantly. Assuming that it's cost-effective for the city, and works (okay, those are big assumptions) what's the downside?
rbt
Senior Member
If they're replacing the electronics, they could install LTE radios and move off the 2G network to achieve much faster processing time for all card types.
Older power hungry electronics + small solar panels for power are likely why they're quite slow; cellular will be completely powered down when not in use versus standby (which jumps to active quite quickly) in modern gear.
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nfitz
Superstar
2G network? I guess they'll have to do something, that's shutting down in around 2020, unless the schedule has changed (again).
rbt
Senior Member
The original units were. I don't really know anything more recent but it certainly feels like the technical implementation is unchanged, even if the network has.
Implementing Presto is a non-trivial modification to the current hardware and programming. Some of the assumptions made in that programming likely no longer apply, and the current performance issues can be solved by changing the guts with or without Presto. Precise ParkLink, the maker of the units, only appears to have 2 big customers (Green P and Metrolinx); if Green P doesn't require an overhaul for performance then they're probably not going to volunteer.
That said, mobile pay apps with removal of streetside tickets sales seem to be where many cities want to end up.
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Johnny Au
Senior Member
I find it painfully ironic that I see car ads on TTC bus shelters!
Imagine car dealerships giving out Presto cards!
nfitz
Superstar
My car dealership offers me free TTC tokens, every time I go in to service my car! Not sure what they'll do when those end ... perhaps free Presto tickets?
Not new either, I've been with them for a decade or so ...