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drum118 said:
TTC PM service update for August 8

The GO protocol is in effect, allowing customers to ride a GO train on the Barrie Line within Toronto for a TTC fare.
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I have never understood how this actual happens. Does one enter Union (TTC), take a paper transfer and use that as their POP?
 
WillTo said:
I have never understood how this actual happens. Does one enter Union (TTC), take a paper transfer and use that as their POP?
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Essentially if you have POP (ie: a transfer) and if a fare inspector asked for your fare, you would just show them your TTC transfer and tell them there is a delay on the TTC. Chances are they will know what you're talking about since GO actually communicates with all their front line staff about TTC delays, unlike the TTC which cant even inform 50% of their front line staff about a delay on any given part of the system which is pretty pathetic. This may change with the TTC's new VISION system, but that's highly dependent if management actually has any communications skills whatsoever (which we will find out about very shortly).

If you are using Presto and if you have already tapped on the TTC, you would tap the fare inspector's validator machine and you would tell them about the same delay.
 
Northern Light said:
Do we yet know why this station flooded so badly? (overland flood, in through the tunnels, up through the drains?)

There is no active construction site here, that I'm aware of..........
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Most parts of the subway use pumps to drain water from them. For whatever reason, the two pumps located just south of Sheppard West Station failed, or at least failed to turn on.

Dan
Toronto, Ont.
 
smallspy said:
Most parts of the subway use pumps to drain water from them. For whatever reason, the two pumps located just south of Sheppard West Station failed, or at least failed to turn on.

Dan
Toronto, Ont.
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Could they not use the dry drop Siamese connection to pump out the water :p
 
smallspy said:
Most parts of the subway use pumps to drain water from them. For whatever reason, the two pumps located just south of Sheppard West Station failed, or at least failed to turn on.

Dan
Toronto, Ont.
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Thanks Dan!
 
Cross post

TTC service returns to Broadview Ave. this weekend

August 9, 2018

The TTC's 504 King, 505 Dundas and 506 Carlton service will return to regular routing through the Broadview Ave./Gerrard St. intersection this Sun., Aug. 12, at 7 a.m.

Temporary diversions had been in place since July while the TTC and City of Toronto replaced aging streetcar tracks. With crews working around the clock work in favourable weather conditions and with no complications, the work was completed four weeks ahead of schedule.

All three routes will operate with replacement buses when the intersection opens. Streetcars return to 504 King and 506 Carlton on Sept. 2 once overhead power is restored and testing of the new tracks is completed. 505 Dundas will continue to operate using buses for several months due to fleet availability and to accommodate track work at Dundas St. W. and Lansdowne Ave.

Customers are advised to check ttc.ca and follow @TTCNotices on Twitter for service updates.
 
I worry that too much media attention may in fact force a debate or even legitimise the alternative of cancelling Finch LRT when if left alone the PC's would sit with an uncomfortable dilemma, and probably do nothing, letting the thing proceed.... because if challenged they could always blame it on the past government. But if the media continually asks "are you going to cancel it?" then they are pushed to take a position.

If there is actual evidence (eg a credible leak) that they are debating this, fine, time to take them on.....otherwise I would stay silent.

One thing we are learning (the hard way) about arbitrary tyrants.... don't poke 'em. Pick your battles.

- Paul
 
Repurposing TTC’s Hillcrest Complex

See Railway Age article at this link.

Major changes are in store for the Toronto Transit Commission (TTC) Hillcrest Complex, the traditional nerve center of its operations. A recently completed report examined the future of the complex, which is being affected by technological changes. It was prompted, in part, by the impending partial redundancy of two major buildings. But though significant changes are coming down the track, Hillcrest Complex, will continue playing a major part in TTC’s operations, as it has for almost a century.

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The 32-acre facility in midtown Toronto was opened in the mid-1920s. At that time, its primary role was as the system’s main streetcar heavy overhaul facility, in the Hillcrest Shop. Other functions were added over the years.

A major change came in the 1980s, when the W.E.P. Duncan Building (bus overhaul) and H.C. Patten Building (fares processing) were erected on newly purchased land on the west side of the complex.

The Hillcrest Shop was renamed the David W. Harvey Shop about this time, followed by the J.G. Inglis Building (offices) and Gunn Building (Transit Control Centre). All of these structures were named in honor of former General Managers, the latter, Chief General Manager David Gunn.
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The Patten Building was opened in the 1980s as a central facility for the storage and processing of fare media (cash, tickets, tokens, passes and transfers) that was formerly performed in the McBrien Building, the TTC’s head office at Yonge Street and Davisville Avenue. This role has been greatly diminished in recent years with the advent of electronic fare media, such as the Presto card, and the use of credit and debit cards for fare purchases. Although cash transactions will likely continue, they will be on a greatly reduced scale.

The Patten Building could be difficult to adapt for reuse, as it was purpose-built; with security being the primary concern, few windows were installed. The TTC is studying its future.

The Duncan Building, incidentally, replaced an obsolete, makeshift bus overhaul garage, Parkdale, in West Toronto.

The Harvey Shop’s function as the overhaul facility for the Canadian Light Rail Vehicles (CLRVs) and Articulated Light Rail Vehicles (ALRVs) is gradually winding down as these cars are replaced by new Bombardier Flexity Outlook low-floor cars; about half of the 204-car order is currently on TTC property.
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The new Leslie Carhouse was purpose-built as a maintenance and overhaul facility for the new LRVs. The Harvey Shop transfer table, which moves cars to maintenance bays on each side, can only accommodate vehicles up to about 55 feet in length. A small addition on the east side of the Harvey building was constructed to accommodate the 75-foot ALRVs, which began arriving about 30 years ago.

Harvey Shop will serve as a backup facility for the Leslie Carhouse, with truck and motor overhauls being performed here. Similar work is done for subway car equipment. Body work for buses is another activity, taking some of the load off the Duncan bus shop.

The TTC is cautiously moving into the area of self-contained electric buses (the Commission’s trolley buses were retired in 1993). The expertise of the Harvey electrical staff would be useful in their maintenance.

The Davenport Garage in the complex has not been used in several years. It is one of the original 1920s structures, and will be kept. One plan is to repurpose it for Training and Vehicle Engineering staff. Conversion to a transit museum for the public is another option.

Another possible future use for Hillcrest is an operating division for the nearby St. Clair streetcar route. Its cars have been based at the west-end Roncesvalles Division since the St. Clair Carhouse closed in 1978, resulting in more than six miles of non-revenue operation for vehicles entering and leaving service. Recently-assigned Flexities have a similar run-in from the Leslie Carhouse.

Construction of additional trackage in the Hillcrest Yard, and the resulting realignment of parking lots and other requirements, would be involved.

A new Streetcar Way Building is being constructed, for rail bending purposes.

The Inglis Building will maintain its role as an office facility, although some departments and functions may be shifted.
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nfitz said:
I assume that's only streetcar and subway transit control - and the buses are back in the divisions somewhere?
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Right now, each division handles management of their own routes. Streetcar transit control is at Roncy. They talked about moving all transit control to Hillcrest with the new Vision system. The two LRT lines would also be handle at Hillcrest.
 
JasonParis said:
I'm pretty sure streetcar control was moved to Leslie Barns a few years back. A friend of mine was pretty senior in streetcar control and moved from Roncy to LB.
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This is correct, although it was more recent than "a couple of years ago". It happened earlier this year, with the temporary closing of Roncy in February.

Dan
Toronto, Ont.
 
Reecemartin said:
Though obviously not the number one priority something akin to this centre in London, housing all of the TTC's operations teams might be better:


Given all the delays we have being able to better reroute relief services would be very good, and that would mean along with GO's new CC we'd only have two CC's for most of the transit services operating in Toronto.
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This sort of setup would be nice as part of a provinical emergency ops centre. Something where they can control all GTA transit from a single room.
 
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