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EastYorkTTCFan
Senior Member
Testing on the TYSE only begin in March as far as train operations it wasn't until April that the first powered train made a slow speed run. They still have yet to make runs at service speeds, at least that's what I gathered from Doors open on saturday.
Steve X
Senior Member
They don't need a whole year to test and commission the line.
Ottawa's Confederation Line is to open in 11 months and they still haven't finished all the overheads and track installation.
http://www.ligneconfederationline.ca/construction/construction-update-125/
Ottawa's Confederation Line is to open in 11 months and they still haven't finished all the overheads and track installation.
http://www.ligneconfederationline.ca/construction/construction-update-125/
amnesiajune
Senior Member
There's other testing that has to happen before that that. They have to do clearance tests, make sure all the rails are set up properly, make sure all the power systems, backups, emergency systems, etc. are working properly, and so on.
rbt
Senior Member
You might want to double that check. OCTranspo has been pretty clear about not committing to an opening date; what they have been giving out is the date the vendor hands them the keys and saying it'll open some time later.
Don't expect to be riding trains in Ottawa as a customer until October 2018.
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TransitBart
Senior Member
EastYorkTTCFan
Senior Member
That all begin in March and is supposed to run until about June or so. Plus at the same time the TTC is also comising the ATC system as well from St. Clair West or possibly Dupont I'm not sure which. Either way a year and a half does seem a bit long for testing the crosstown before it opens.
Steve X
Senior Member
You're very likely correct that it might not be the opening date but the date it could open for service.
I believe that's that date the consortium has to finished the project or otherwise face a hefty daily fine. I take it as they have to complete testing so there is proof that everything is working when they hand it over. It should be the date the line is in a functional state ready to open. Whatever OcTranspo does it's their problem. The schedule has everything ending by Winter 2018: http://www.ligneconfederationline.c...k_Ahead_2017_EN-final-web-file-2017-03-16.pdf
So I'm correct that they have 11 months to put install tracks, signaling system, overheads, train testing and final commissioning.
The prototype has to be in testing around the MSF by early 2019. I highly doubt they need a year to test trains on the line. The Cherry line opened in June last year and the first streetcar that went down to the loop happened in mid-April. Maybe for the burn-in runs but I doubt they need the entire line to burn in vehicles unless there is like 20 vehicles going through burn ins at the same time. I highly doubt they will have more than 4 deliveries in a month. BBD or Alstom.
Palma
Senior Member
considering the line was to be completed in 2020 and next thing we know its 2021. Of course originally it was to be completed earlier and I know due to Ford work got delayed for at least 18 months. But what is the reason it went form 2020 to 2021? And who knows when it will really be completed. And of course they will say it got completed on time. Just like the Pan AM games kept getting the completion dates extended and budget increased and in the end the government said it got completed on-time and on-budget and executives actually got bonuses. Unreal
TransitBart
Senior Member
I had to visit a client in Vaughan on Saturday. Drove back into the city down Jane and saw the new stations on TYSSE. Then I headed down Keele to have a look at Eglinton. I must admit that I have not been on that stretch of Eglinton in five years. Holy cow. The commercial base of Eglinton West is decimated. I was shocked. It looks worse than St Clair did ten years back. Boarded up storefronts abound. When the construction is done, it will be once more from the beginning. Frankly I was upset to see how it looked.. If that is the future of Pape or Don Mills for DRL construction, or Eglinton East for Crosstown East, then I'd be closing my business now.
nfitz
Superstar
The tendering was slower than expected. And then they have to negotiate a completion date with the contractor.
There's huge penalties if it's late. I'd be shocked if it doesn't get delivered by September 30, 2021.
The Pan-Am games finished on schedule. Are you referring to facilities? The biggest build was the village, and as far as I know that was on schedule.
Monarch Butterfly
Superstar
I'm guessing the construction of the Yonge Street Subway had the same result in loss of business after it was finished?
Nobody going to Yonge Street especially on weekends these days... not.
(The businesses had years of warnings before construction began. If the business did not have a backup plan or a reserve fund or schedule a time for renovations, they shouldn't be in business.)
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crs1026
Superstar
It would be interesting to know what has happened to commercial rents along Eglinton since the line was approved. Many of those traditional small businesses may have been doomed by changes in property value, rather than by the disruption on the street.
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BurlOak
Senior Member
How long was it an open excavation as shown?I'm guessing the construction of the Yonge Street Subway had the same result in loss of business after it was finished?
Nobody going to Yonge Street especially on weekends these days... not.
(The businesses had years of warnings before construction began. If the business did not have a backup plan or a reserve fund or schedule a time for renovations, they shouldn't be in business.)
I notice that timber planking laid down in the foreground. Is that for construction use, or was it open to traffic?
EastYorkTTCFan
Senior Member
I think there are several factors with small businesses and not just rents. Sure some people like to support small businesses but many more would rather go to a chain now especially if they offer things like free wifi.