Toronto Eglinton Line 5 | ?m | ?s | Metrolinx | Arcadis

[denfromoakvillemilton]

Definitely run-through project.

UTSC to Pearson in an hour is the endgoal we all should be striving for. True crosstown rapid transit!

A part of me thinks that Eglinton should have been a subway, tied in with the extension to STC and connected to Sheppard subway, interlined with Vaughan extension at Wilson.

I'm just worried about operational problems because the line is so long.

 

[Monarch Butterfly]

A part of me thinks that Eglinton should have been a subway, tied in with the extension to STC and connected to Sheppard subway, interlined with Vaughan extension at Wilson.

I'm just worried about operational problems because the line is so long.

A "subway" is defined as an "underground electric railway", which the Eglinton Crosstown LRT will be. Around the world, the vehicles used can be of various different sizes and configurations. Doesn't have to be a "heavy rail", of which there are also different sizes. And "subways" don't have to be all underground, several "subways" around the world are above ground.

 

[TransitBart]

Hi guys, one question.

1) Do you think Crosstown and Crosstown East should be a run through project or a forced transfer at Kennedy?

Absolutely run through.

 

[Midtown Urbanist]

A "subway" is defined as an "underground electric railway", which the Eglinton Crosstown LRT will be. Around the world, the vehicles used can be of various different sizes and configurations. Doesn't have to be a "heavy rail", of which there are also different sizes. And "subways" don't have to be all underground, several "subways" around the world are above ground.

Including our own, for example.

 

[denfromoakvillemilton]

A "subway" is defined as an "underground electric railway", which the Eglinton Crosstown LRT will be. Around the world, the vehicles used can be of various different sizes and configurations. Doesn't have to be a "heavy rail", of which there are also different sizes. And "subways" don't have to be all underground, several "subways" around the world are above ground.

Including our own, for example.

I should have said "using heavy rail tech"

Absolutely run through.

Ok then. I'm with you guys. I hope this all gets done before 2025.

 

[Steve X]

A part of me thinks that Eglinton should have been a subway, tied in with the extension to STC and connected to Sheppard subway, interlined with Vaughan extension at Wilson.

I'm just worried about operational problems because the line is so long.

Nah. A LRT is better. It eliminates the "fire at track level" issue that happens all the time on the actual "subway" network. Falling on the tracks would be much more difficult since one can just walk back up to the platform with one step. Evacuation would be easier too without the third rail.

 

[denfromoakvillemilton]

Nah. A LRT is better. It eliminates the "fire at track level" issue that happens all the time on the actual "subway" network. Falling on the tracks would be much more difficult since one can just walk back up to the platform with one step. Evacuation would be easier too without the third rail.

Interesting. Safety is a huge issue with transit. Would this not be a problem on the Scarborough line as well.

 

[Monarch Butterfly]

Still don't know if the Crosstown LRT will have screen platform doors or not, since they were considered "gravy" in the Ford administration days.

 

[SaugeenJunction]

Still don't know if the Crosstown LRT will have screen platform doors or not, since they were considered "gravy" in the Ford administration days.

I'm pretty sure it won't have PSDs as they don't appear in the latest design renderings and I remember reading an article about a blind man criticizing the project for being dangerous for blind people by having centre platforms. He was worried about blind people falling on the tracks, and the Metrolinx response said nothing about PSDs.

 

[smallspy]

Hi guys, one question.

1) Do you think Crosstown and Crosstown East should be a run through project or a forced transfer at Kennedy?

Absolutely, positively, should be run as two separate lines with a transfer at Kennedy.

Dan
Toronto, Ont.

 

[Steve X]

Interesting. Safety is a huge issue with transit. Would this not be a problem on the Scarborough line as well.

Same with the TYSSE. The same problems we have with the current subway would continue to happen except there tunnels are wider with a wider concrete walkway beside the track. This makes evacuation safer than the current Yonge and Bloor lines. Subway extension will always use a third rail. This means they'll have to cut the power when someone falls onto the track oppose to allowing people to cross the tracks at Queens Quay Station.

 

[denfromoakvillemilton]

Absolutely, positively, should be run as two separate lines with a transfer at Kennedy.

Dan
Toronto, Ont.

Interesting, why so?

Same with the TYSSE. The same problems we have with the current subway would continue to happen except there tunnels are wider with a wider concrete walkway beside the track. This makes evacuation safer than the current Yonge and Bloor lines. Subway extension will always use a third rail. This means they'll have to cut the power when someone falls onto the track oppose to allowing people to cross the tracks at Queens Quay Station.

That makes sense. At least with LRT the catenary is above, so little interference.

 

[BurlOak]

Nah. A LRT is better. It eliminates the "fire at track level" issue that happens all the time on the actual "subway" network. Falling on the tracks would be much more difficult since one can just walk back up to the platform with one step. Evacuation would be easier too without the third rail.

Are fires caused by debris and electricity, or debride and heat (breaking)?

A low platform is less Scarry and would most definaely have more people entering track level,

 

[BurlOak]

Absolutely, positively, should be run as two separate lines with a transfer at Kennedy.

Dan
Toronto, Ont.

Depends,

If West of Kennedy can handle the loads, it should be run through.
If you want to relive the transit debates of the past 6 years with forced transfer, go ahead and make it separate.

If the separate is pushed, maybe we will end up with another B-D subway extension - this a branch along Eglinton to UTSC

 

[denfromoakvillemilton]

Depends,

If West of Kennedy can handle the loads, it should be run through.
If you want to relive the transit debates of the past 6 years with forced transfer, go ahead and make it separate.

If the separate is pushed, maybe we will end up with another B-D subway extension - this a branch along Eglinton to UTSC

Good Point. I hope it goes through all the way to UTSC.