Admiral Beez
Superstar
Okay, I may regret this, but I'm willing to give the new chap a chance. I want to be proud of our streetcars and their (mostly) domestic origins.
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AlvinofDiaspar
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dowlingm
Senior Member
4401 out and about
https://mobile.twitter.com/moore_oliver/status/726069968266211328
https://mobile.twitter.com/moore_oliver/status/726069968266211328
pstogios
Senior Member
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Amare
Senior Member
I like how Pierre Beaudoin says the share structure is to "protect against the dismantling of this company". I'm sorry Pierre, has the company not been going through the dismantlement process bit by bit under your control for the past 10 years?
TOareaFan
Superstar
you really think today's market activity is just a reaction to that?
TOareaFan
Superstar
how have they been dismantling over the past 10 years?
Amare
Senior Member
Just a few examples for you:
-A once successful and virtually always successful Learjet (business jet) program is struggling greatly
-The CSeries saga
-Divestiture of part of Bombardier Transportation
I could go on but it's beyond the scope of the subject of this thread
TOareaFan
Superstar
Business jet market is soft...and if anything they overgrew their product offerings ....that is not dismantling anything...it is, if anything, being too ambitious in growth.
CSeries saga? People can and will debate if it is too expensive or if it took too long (to me it seems in line with other new jet programs at other companies)...but, again, it is growth of the company into a business they were not in......so, again, more over ambition than dismantling.
Divestiture of part of Transport? Yes they sold part of that (30%) to Quebec pension plans.....because the growth areas of the company had created a cash need....nothing was dismantled the division still exists....they raised cash.
I think you and I may be operating with a different definition of dismantling.
TheTigerMaster
Superstar
Where is 4419? It's been nearly two weeks since we saw that photo of it on the flatbed.
And how long has it been since our last delivery? Feels like at least 4 weeks, maybe 6 now.
And how long has it been since our last delivery? Feels like at least 4 weeks, maybe 6 now.
nfitz
Superstar
Currently inside at Leslie Barns. Was out a couple of days ago.
About 8 days.
TheTigerMaster
Superstar
Ohh. I don't know how I missed that delivery.
robmausser
Senior Member
But we did have trouble with the TR's....
They were several years late, we were supposed to have them in 2009 and they came in 2011 and had several issues with the doors
http://news.nationalpost.com/posted-toronto/new-toronto-rocket-subway-trains-delayed-ttc
http://www.thestar.com/news/ttc/2010/04/27/ttcs_new_subway_cars_delayed.html
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news...nacceptable-delays-ttc-admits/article5963240/
robmausser
Senior Member
What I want to know is where is 4402??
drum118
Superstar
Because of high mileage and too costly to rebuilt 4402, it been decided to build another new one in its place. The same thing will happen to 4401 when it is ship back and be use for parts.
By year end we should either have 4400-4433 or 4400, 4402-4434 here.