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Toronto Ridiculous NIMBYism thread


Wow, first world problems eh? Gold-plated quote: “The events that occurred in relation to the house on Vesta Drive were incredibly distressing.” B*TCH TRY LIVING IN A COOKIE CUTTER SUBDIVISION.

Ridiculousness aside, are there established cases of intellectual property rights applying to the architecture of a low-density home?
 
Wow, first world problems eh? Gold-plated quote: “The events that occurred in relation to the house on Vesta Drive were incredibly distressing.” B*TCH TRY LIVING IN A COOKIE CUTTER SUBDIVISION.

Ridiculousness aside, are there established cases of intellectual property rights applying to the architecture of a low-density home?

They say that the Sleeping Beauty castles in Disneyland (followed by the others) were "inspired" by the Neuschwanstein Castle, in Bavaria, Germany. Wonder why they don't sue?
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Another twist:

Markham cow statue to stay put, for now
Charity the cow isn’t going anywhere soon, and there’s confusion about where she will go when a decision is made on her future.


https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2017/10/16/markham-cow-statue-to-stay-put-for-now.html


My favourite part of the article is when one of the anti-cow locals states:

“Why should we pay for it? Why should resident [sic] of Markham pay for this mistake?”

Because Markham accepted a donation of public art, you slack-jawed yokel, and signed a legal agreement. To the extent any mistake was made, it wasn't the artist or donor who made it.
 
My favourite part of the article is when one of the anti-cow locals states:

“Why should we pay for it? Why should resident [sic] of Markham pay for this mistake?”

Because Markham accepted a donation of public art, you slack-jawed yokel, and signed a legal agreement. To the extent any mistake was made, it wasn't the artist or donor who made it.

This hasn't happened yet?


AoD
 
From San Fran, but this bit is so true:

Along the way, YIMBYs have taken on time-worn NIMBY tropes about “community character,” “neighborhood preservation” and “local control.” They’ve exposed them for what they often are — the means that entrench a system for enriching older haves at the expense of younger have-nots. (It is to the immense discredit of San Francisco’s self-styled “progressives” that they tend to ally with the NIMBYs rather than the YIMBYs.)

Our view: We are entering the age of the YIMBY
One letter makes a big difference for the Bay Area.

For years, development opponents had the political field pretty much to themselves. The “Not In My Back Yard” contingent — NIMBYs — became a force to be reckoned with in many communities. They showed up at meetings. They spent the time to learn the process, and how to work it to their advantage. They remembered their friends and their enemies at election time. Particularly in the Bay Area's better-off neighborhoods, crossing the local NIMBYs carried electoral consequences. Catering to them generally carried none, and officialdom responded to these incentives by downsizing or denying projects by the dozen.

We are now entering the age of the YIMBY. Prefaced with a “Yes, ” it’s a compelling counterargument that the only way to keep the housing shortage from crippling coming generations is by doing a much better job of building it in nearly every community, and by clearing away obstacles that keep us from doing so.

Its influence is starting to show — in surprising places. A YIMBY-minded candidate was elected to the City Council in Palo Alto, a community renowned for its aversion to development. A YIMBY-sponsored ballot initiative is being pushed in San Francisco to make it easier to build affordable housing. YIMBYs scored their biggest political victory yet last year when the state legislature made it a lot harder for housing-resistant cities to block deserving projects. And next year, a prominent YIMBY candidate is running for supervisor in one of San Francisco’s most development-critical districts.

Along the way, YIMBYs have taken on time-worn NIMBY tropes about “community character,” “neighborhood preservation” and “local control.” They’ve exposed them for what they often are — the means that entrench a system for enriching older haves at the expense of younger have-nots. (It is to the immense discredit of San Francisco’s self-styled “progressives” that they tend to ally with the NIMBYs rather than the YIMBYs.)

YIMBYs have a lot of growing up to do. They are still relatively new to the political arena, and can’t yet match the skills or the knowledge that development opponents have built up over the years. But their emergence is a sign that the tide may finally be shifting in Bay Area development debates for the better, pointing the way toward a more equitable future.

https://www.bizjournals.com/sanfran...iew-we-are-entering-the-age-of-the-yimby.html
 
And right on time for this article, comes this post+depuation on "Midtown In Focus":

https://blog.torontohousingmatters.com/midtown-in-focus-in-focus-d664aeabb147


Good afternoon.

My name is Chris Spoke and I’m a founding member of Housing Matters.

We are group of Torontonians that advocate for increased housing supply as a response to the affordability crisis that has been pricing young people and middle class families out of the city.

At Housing Matters, we understand that there are essentially three ways to ensure housing affordability in the long run. Those are to,
1. Increase supply,
2. Decrease demand, or
3. Set price controls.

Of these three, we believe that the only sustainable and equitable solution to rising housing prices is to increase supply.

We take very seriously the common sense notion that, if we want more people to have housing in Toronto, we’re going to need to build more housing.

As many of you know, it is very difficult to build new housing in Toronto, in a meaningful way, relative our population growth and new household formation. This is why we have a very low 1.3% rental vacancy rate.

It’s also why prices continue to rise so rapidly. Through land use rules that constrain supply, we’ve made a scarce good scarcer still.

After having reviewed the Midtown in Focus Proposed Secondary Plan Update being considered today, it strikes us as a group that many of the policies listed will exacerbate the supply crunch and affordability crisis — and that, in one of our City’s primary Centres, that the Province has specifically targeted for growth.

The document opens with a nod to Complete Communities, stating that “Midtown will continue to be an inclusive and liveable community that supports the daily needs of people of all ages, incomes, and abilities.”

As new condo prices approach $1,000 per square foot, we’re skeptical that that will play out, and urge Council to consider whether the extremely prescriptive approach taken in this document will place upward or downward pressure on those prices.

To highlight one notable example, this document states that “No tall buildings will be permitted on sites and/or areas not specifically identified as having tall building development potential or infill development potential.”
Of the sites identified on the height map, the overwhelming majority of these already have active development applications. Is this not supposed to be a 25-year plan?

The site located at the South-West corner of Yonge and Roselawn has an active application for a 23 and 27 storey tower development, which meets many of the tall building guideline criteria. The latest Midtown in Focus map however shows this as being a one tower site with a 14 storey height limit, effectively eliminating hundreds of new housing units within a 7-minute walk of the Subway and new LRT line.

As the average price of a single detached home in the area currently exceeds $1.5-million, with policies like this, we are protecting the well established and denying opportunity to those trying to live a car-free lifestyle and attain homeownership.

There are two other examples that I’d like to highlight as being poorly thought out in terms of their impact on affordability.

First, the requirement that larger residential developments provide Section 37 “Density Incentives” acts to shift the burden of funding community benefits from the broader tax base to new homebuyers. This regressive cash grab should be opposed by anybody who cares about affordability — and fairness.

Second, the quotas set for 2- and 3-bedroom units that do not account for market feedback loops and which act to override industry demand forecasts. This sort of top-down planning can only ever lead to malinvestment and the killing of projects that would be rendered uneconomic at the margin.

Taken as a whole, the Proposed Yonge-Eglinton Secondary Plan Update is a very alarming document indeed — one that signals further reluctance by the City to meaningfully address Toronto’s housing shortage and affordability crisis.

If we do not seriously reconsider the approach taken in this document, we will continue to see young people and middle class families moving out to our suburbs and exurbs, while Toronto gradually becomes a playground for the rich and lucky.

There are many other global cities that have gone down this road, to their detriment, and at the cost of diversity and dynamism. Let’s please not follow them.

Thank you.


"They’ve exposed them for what they often are — the means that entrench a system for enriching older haves at the expense of younger have-nots"

This is exactly what I see from all these people - both NIMBYs and people complaining about the lack of affordable housing who simultaneously rant about how developers are oppressing them. They don't care one bit about housing for the younger generation and future residents of their neighbourhood. It is a "fuck yous, I got mine" in other words, just a way more subtle variant of it, that often I don't think they are even cognizant of.
 
Opposition to Annex homeless shelter might be peak NIMBY
This backlash goes beyond your typical not-in-my-backyard kvetching and to a whole new level of fiery opposition.

See link.

Here’s the good news: Toronto is opening a new, much-needed homeless shelter.

The city has acquired 348 Davenport Rd. in the Annex neighbourhood. It will be used as a winter respite site — a place for people to stay warm — starting this week, and will open as a full-service shelter after renovations are completed.

Here’s the bad news: the NIMBYs are at it again.

And this isn’t your usual not-in-my-backyard kvetching. This is a whole new level of fiery opposition, shattering all previous records. It might be peak NIMBY.

A group called the Davenport Triangle Residents Association (DATRA) really, really doesn’t want this shelter in their neighbourhood. In a letter to local councillor Joe Cressy published in their newsletter, they say the Annex “has more than its share of ‘social problem’ housing and it is time for the rest of the city to share the burden.”

They blame Cressy for his desire to help low-income people, writing, “This seems to be a particular interest of yours, more than other councillors, so it all ends up in our backyard.”

But wait, there’s more. Their opposition descended further into self-parody when Nigel Napier-Andrews, who serves on the board of DATRA, told the Globe & Mail that he was specifically concerned that homeless people staying at the shelter would, in a fit of jealousy, vandalize his neighbour’s Tesla.

Yeah, he said that. He went there.
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Yeah, that Napier-Andrews fellow is a real bell end. How does that even come out of someone's mouth without them thinking they may have said something stupid? If anyone's vandalising a bougie car out of a sense of jealousy, it'll be some middle class worker-slave like me. First of all.
Second of all, how the hell did you do so well by yourself, Mr Napier-Andrews, when your thought processes are clearly flawed?
 

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