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So the banks are moving south of Gardiner, possibly a trend the financial district is exanding southwards as well. However, would not it be weird and inconvenient to have a CBD disected by a highway and some rail tracks? Even with the proposed PATH access, it is still a bit of a walk from Union station.

I always think it makes more sense to expand the CBD eastward, to say Church street. The whole area between Yonge and church, front and Queen still have plenty of empty lots, or vacant buildings suitable for converting into office towers. A walk between King station to Church/Yonge is definitely much more pleasant than from Union to 85 Harbour St.

That being said, the city should really think putting Gardiner underground between Spadina and Jarvis. It leads to so many issues hard to solve! If it is too expensive, simply get rid of it. The drive on lakeshore is not that bad to start with.
 
It's too late to bury the Gardiner and removing it will create a lot of problems for drivers. They're going to get a lot of people angry, who use it. Gardiner gets pretty busy during rush hours.
 
The answer isnt burying the gardiner or demolishing it. The answer is building on either side of it, illuminating beneath it, and turning lakeshore blvd (the parts under the gardiner) into a pedestrian mall, sheltered from rain in a dense urban jungle. Great cities are split by rivers, rail lines, and various other obstacles. We must learn to integrate them into our plans instead of destroying them. If we knocked down the gardiner we would still have the ugly rail corridor anyways, so theres no point.
 
Bruvyman said:
Your post got cut off. Obviously you meant to continue that sentence with something like "at midnight." or "if you like slow-moving traffic."
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True, but traffic in downtown should be discouraged any more. Plus, I thought Toronto doesn't want to be a Los Angeles. Traffic will move faster if there is a highway along Bloor st as well, won't it?
 
someMidTowner said:
The answer isnt burying the gardiner or demolishing it. The answer is building on either side of it, illuminating beneath it, and turning lakeshore blvd (the parts under the gardiner) into a pedestrian mall, sheltered from rain in a dense urban jungle. Great cities are split by rivers, rail lines, and various other obstacles. We must learn to integrate them into our plans instead of destroying them. If we knocked down the gardiner we would still have the ugly rail corridor anyways, so theres no point.
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Your suggestion is genius. We should really do our best to minimize the visual impact of Gardiner/Rail lines if demolition is not the way to go. But I am sure the city wouldn't have the vision to do it. 99% chance we are stuck with these two hug eye sores for the next 50 years.
 
IMO the Gardiner doesn't need to be buried, as it isn't the real barrier or eyesore it used to be, now that it's surrounded by buildings and whatnot.

The real barrier is the tracks. All we need to do with the Gardiner is make it more lively under it, so people will barely notice they're going under an elevated highway.
 
The_Architect said:
All we need to do with the Gardiner is make it more lively under it, so people will barely notice they're going under an elevated highway.
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The presence of a five-lane one-way high-speed arterial at ground level under it is a little harder to "barely notice".
 
Today is the last day as a parking. They just removed the advertisement stand. This is it. By midnight all the cars have to be out.
 
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