gristle
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St. Paul's by-election
- Thread starter King of Kensington
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King of Kensington
Senior Member
My prediction:
Liberals, 45%
PCs, 27%
NDP, 19%
Greens and others, 9%
Liberals, 45%
PCs, 27%
NDP, 19%
Greens and others, 9%
GenerationW
Senior Member
Here is a bit of analysis heading into voting day:
http://toronto.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20090913/st_pauls_090914/20090914/?hub=TorontoNewHome
http://toronto.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20090913/st_pauls_090914/20090914/?hub=TorontoNewHome
lordmandeep
Banned
Voter Turnout is generally good in this riding.
I remember when Peter Kent tried to win this riding in a federal election, the voter turnout was like over 70%...
Voter Turnout may be 59% now, but in some places its near 40%.
I remember when Peter Kent tried to win this riding in a federal election, the voter turnout was like over 70%...
Voter Turnout may be 59% now, but in some places its near 40%.
GraphicMatt
Looking forward to a FRESH START for Toronto
Hoskins won. Don't see percentages, but apparently it was an 'easy' victory: http://www.thestar.com/news/ontario/article/697363
The media spin this morning made it sound like it would be close, and that Levy might even win. Guess that didn't materialize.
The media spin this morning made it sound like it would be close, and that Levy might even win. Guess that didn't materialize.
lordmandeep
Banned
considering by elections are toxic for the party in charge.
Winning with near 50% of the seat in a hostile environment shows that the Liberals will likely easily keep the Toronto area.
The election will be tough for the Tories...
Winning with near 50% of the seat in a hostile environment shows that the Liberals will likely easily keep the Toronto area.
The election will be tough for the Tories...
GraphicMatt
Looking forward to a FRESH START for Toronto
Making the HST the major (only?) issue was a dumb move. It insults voters by casting them as only caring about their own taxes and nothing else.
To win, the Tories need to clearly lay out what they will do differently than Dalton, who has been playing the pragmatic centrist card - the one that Ontarians love so much - to great effect in recent years.
lordmandeep
Banned
Yes it will all be about...
Keeping the boat steady and keeping it in the centre. Dalton knows he has a ton of opposition but if he grab the centre for himself, it will be hard taking him out.
Looking at this, it shows the Tories will have a hard time winning a seat in Toronto or even in Peel and other areas.
I think the Liberals will get thrashed by the NDP in the North and by the Tories/NDP in places like London, Southern Ontario and Hamilton.
However Dalton does rather well in some rural areas.
Yeah I hate Taxes like the HST, but the reason I support Dalton is because the other sides are to left or to right. I like the centre.
Keeping the boat steady and keeping it in the centre. Dalton knows he has a ton of opposition but if he grab the centre for himself, it will be hard taking him out.
Looking at this, it shows the Tories will have a hard time winning a seat in Toronto or even in Peel and other areas.
I think the Liberals will get thrashed by the NDP in the North and by the Tories/NDP in places like London, Southern Ontario and Hamilton.
However Dalton does rather well in some rural areas.
Yeah I hate Taxes like the HST, but the reason I support Dalton is because the other sides are to left or to right. I like the centre.
christiesplits
Senior Member
http://www.elections.on.ca/en-CA/ElectionNightResults2009.htm
238/238 polls
LIBS - 48%
CONS - 28%
NDP - 17%
GREEN - 5%
It is going to be difficult for Levy to return to her Toronto Sun position claiming that the "socialist seals" in Toronto politics don't represent the people's interests, only for her to be completely owned by a cherry-picked Liberal in a relatively hostile political climate towards the incumbent party. I'm sure she will some how blame her defeat on David Miller.
238/238 polls
LIBS - 48%
CONS - 28%
NDP - 17%
GREEN - 5%
It is going to be difficult for Levy to return to her Toronto Sun position claiming that the "socialist seals" in Toronto politics don't represent the people's interests, only for her to be completely owned by a cherry-picked Liberal in a relatively hostile political climate towards the incumbent party. I'm sure she will some how blame her defeat on David Miller.
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afransen
Senior Member
The HST is an all-round Good Thing. No one 'likes' to pay taxes, but if we have to be taxed, let it be in an intelligent way.
lordmandeep
Banned
Really Tim Hudak says "HST is bad for Ontario Dalton!! If I am elected I will repeal"
Dalton says with a grin " Your big federal brothers support it and initially created this whole idea and your telling me that your going to repeal it!"
Really Dalton's political strategy should be that he must make people believe that even if the Tories are elected, they cannot do anything to repeal it.
If he does that, its a dead issue...
That is playbook of many politicians like Chretien.
Never give anything the opposition can unite on...
Dalton says with a grin " Your big federal brothers support it and initially created this whole idea and your telling me that your going to repeal it!"
Really Dalton's political strategy should be that he must make people believe that even if the Tories are elected, they cannot do anything to repeal it.
If he does that, its a dead issue...
That is playbook of many politicians like Chretien.
Never give anything the opposition can unite on...
adma
Superstar
Do you really think she was that certain of winning?
Jonny5
Senior Member
SimonP
Active Member
The Greens did do pretty poorly this time out. It might be because they are without a leader at the moment. I do also think that they lost momentum when the state of the economy reduced how much people worried about the environment.
Jonny5
Senior Member
It must be driving John Tory crazy that this HST business came out after his byelection. If last night was a byelection in Kwartha, and he was running, he probably would have won. Assuming he would have been against it....