Brands
New Member
Remember Brian Mulroney's GST Tax. It costed the conservatives their government. The carbon tax will cost the Liberals their government.
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kEiThZ
Superstar
You can scream all you want. But like I said earlier, the average person neither understands nor cares about tax credits.
Also, your economic ignorance is really showing. The reason the American economy is booming isn't really the IRA. It's the large deficits they are running.
kEiThZ
Superstar
Unlike the GST, the carbon tax is unlikely to endure. I wish it would. But the argument on this has been lost.
afransen
Senior Member
The current $65 per tonne carbon tax adds 14 cents per liter of gasoline. It is scheduled to rise to 170 per tonne in 2030, which would be 37 cents per liter, so a 23 cent per liter increase over today.
Coolibop
Active Member
I wonder if the provincial Tories on Ontario will remove the current subsidy (they have suspended the provincial gas tax until end of year) to time close to the election and then blame increase on the carbon tax to out the pressure on the feds.
It may just be a strategy that works... I'd bet the average Joe forgets that we've not had any provincial tax on gas in the past few years and the carbon pricing makes for an easy target.
It may just be a strategy that works... I'd bet the average Joe forgets that we've not had any provincial tax on gas in the past few years and the carbon pricing makes for an easy target.
gabe
Senior Member
Did they order steak and caviar on the room service menu?
globalnews.ca
Housing asylum seekers at Niagara hotels cost Canada more than $100 million - National | Globalnews.ca
Newly released figures from Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship Canada show the federal government spent more than $100 million housing asylum seekers at hotels.
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Northern Light
Superstar
Did they order steak and caviar on the room service menu?
Housing asylum seekers at Niagara hotels cost Canada more than $100 million - National | Globalnews.ca
Newly released figures from Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship Canada show the federal government spent more than $100 million housing asylum seekers at hotels.
We know from the piece that the cost was an average of $208 per person, per day. If you're in hotels, in the Falls, that price is entirely believable, it covers both the off and on-season over the year in question, one would expect a lower winter rate, but off-setting peak-season revenue will come at a pretty penny as it were.
There were, according to the article, 5,000 asylum seekers, each staying an average of 113 days.
That's 565,000 bed nights; or an average of 1,548 on any given night.
$20,000 per person for a typical stay of nearly 4 months in a hotel is a believable number sans caviar and champagne.
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Now, it may be a fair question of whether we want to keep asylum seekers in hotels, in tourist season, in tourist hot spots.............
But there is the problem of asking, amidst a housing crisis, exactly where else they would go?
Richard White
Senior Member
Nunavut.
Northern Light
Superstar
Putting aside the $3,000 per person flight you just put each asylum seeker on...........are you under the impression there is a vast surplus of hotel rooms or apartments in Iqaluit? I can confidently tell you there is not.
PS, food up there is more the double the cost per person it is down here.
evandyk
Senior Member
The entire population of Nunavut is less than 40,000 and it has its own severe housing crisis. Maybe Cochrane?
Brands
New Member
Trudeau challenges premiers opposed to carbon tax hike to suggest alternatives to federal levy
Several premiers have been calling on Ottawa to halt a planned increase to the federal carbon tax
Prime Minister Justin Trudeau is calling on premiers opposed to increasing the carbon tax to propose credible alternatives to the federal measure.
On Tuesday, Trudeau wrote to seven premiers who have been calling on Ottawa to pause an imminent hike to the federal levy or scrap the program altogether.
In his letter, the prime minister suggested that the governments of New Brunswick, Prince Edward Island, Saskatchewan, Alberta, Ontario, Nova Scotia and Newfoundland and Labrador haven't put forward suitable replacements to the federal backstop.
"When we last engaged with provinces and territories on this in 2022, all of your governments either did not propose alternative systems or … proposed systems that did not meet the minimum standard for emissions reductions," the letter reads
The Government is feeling the carbon tax pressure.
Brands
New Member
The problem with the carbon tax is that it was designed for a world that doesn't exist. I think the Liberals thought everyone would start buying electric cars...that hasn't happened.
I look outside and the majority of people drive gas vehicles, I may see the odd Tesla...you see where I am going.
Canadians only see the gas prices going up, that don't see the rebates. It is not going to change behavior because we don't have the demand or infrastructure the support the vast use of electric vehicles.
It I was the Federal government I was mandate all gas stations have electric vehicle charging stations.
The carbon tax is going to stink the Liberals. Only 11% of Canadians support the carbon tax.
I look outside and the majority of people drive gas vehicles, I may see the odd Tesla...you see where I am going.
Canadians only see the gas prices going up, that don't see the rebates. It is not going to change behavior because we don't have the demand or infrastructure the support the vast use of electric vehicles.
It I was the Federal government I was mandate all gas stations have electric vehicle charging stations.
The carbon tax is going to stink the Liberals. Only 11% of Canadians support the carbon tax.
kEiThZ
Superstar
Which would be evidence that you don't understand how people use EVs. The best places to charge are home or work. Or places where somebody might spend about 20-30 mins doing something else. That's why grocery stores are becoming popular locations for chargers in Europe. Everybody has to buy groceries. And they usually spend 20-30 mins getting groceries for the week.
Nobody ditches their car for 13¢ in gas taxes. I don't think think the Liberals are dumb enough to assume that.
Also no idea where you get your information but EV sales have been going every year. We were at 11-12% nationally for 2023. The cost of the vehicles and charging infrastructure are the biggest problems and the Liberals haven't done much to tackle those problems.
kEiThZ
Superstar
The Liberals could scrap the carbon tax tomorrow and they'd still lose the next election. Cost of living is a much wider problem.
afransen
Senior Member
EV marketshare is up to 10% of new car sales. It's happening. I don't think anyone thought it would be overnight transition.