2024 Mississauga Mayoral Byelection Transit Plans

[guavadelic]

As announced to much fanfare in February, GO is building their own corridor in and beside the existing CPKC tracks/corridor. No need for a bypass now.

That would address the Milton line. Wouldn't a freight bypass still be needed for the Kitchener line to enable full two-way service?

 

[urbancog]

In November 2019, Metrolinx issues an Initial Business Case Update that claimed 2-way all-day service between Toronto and Kitchener was possible by improving cooperation with CN over use of their Halton Subdivision (Bramalea - Georgetown) at about half the cost of a freight bypass and with lower deliverability risk. Service on the line has been increased (a train every 3-hours to Kitchener) but we're yet to see the investments that would enable hourly all-day 2-way service.

Recently CN reported that they will be awarding design work for enhancements between Bramalea and Georgetown but we don't know the scope of this. Limited work on the Georgetown to Kitchener (Guelph Subdivision) is about will finish soon but Metrolinx seems to be saying this will only improve reliability of the existing services. The contractor qualification process for "Packages 2 & 4" of improvements has also started but work will likely only start in 2025.

So yes a bypass may have been a better solution for Kitchener and Milton but we'll never know because Doug didn't want to pay for it.

 

[Allandale25]

In November 2019, Metrolinx issues an Initial Business Case Update that claimed 2-way all-day service between Toronto and Kitchener was possible by improving cooperation with CN over use of their Halton Subdivision (Bramalea - Georgetown) at about half the cost of a freight bypass and with lower deliverability risk. Service on the line has been increased (a train every 3-hours to Kitchener) but we're yet to see the investments that would enable hourly all-day 2-way service.

Recently CN reported that they will be awarding design work for enhancements between Bramalea and Georgetown but we don't know the scope of this. Limited work on the Georgetown to Kitchener (Guelph Subdivision) is about will finish soon but Metrolinx seems to be saying this will only improve reliability of the existing services. The contractor qualification process for "Packages 2 & 4" of improvements has also started but work will likely only start in 2025.

So yes a bypass may have been a better solution for Kitchener and Milton but we'll never know because Doug didn't want to pay for it.

Where did you see that CN reported this?

 

[Bojaxs]

If you read into the announcement, lots of new stuff which makes this more real. First is a deal with CPKC being communicated publicly for the first time. Second is specifying Metrolinx is going with a dedicated passenger corridor, the first time we’ve heard this (versus simply a 3rd shared track). Third the public communication of a IBC for Milton and specific ridership numbers is new. And finally the price tag is new (Omar essentially made up a price in his announcement). The details of why it is so high have been discussed at length throughout UT so won’t repeat here.

Has CPKC given permission to go ahead with this? An announcement from Doug Ford means nothing. Was a representative from CPKC present when this announcement was made?

 

[drum118]

Has CPKC given permission to go ahead with this? An announcement from Doug Ford means nothing. Was a representative from CPKC present when this announcement was made?

May come out at budget time as no one wants to tip the hand until then.
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Having three tracks in the corridor will not cut it as it needs to be four period with a fifth if possible. I have seen nothing but four tracks in all RR corridors where CP/CN train run since 2002.

 

[Allandale25]

 

[jys]

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It's exciting when politicians show interest in transit, especially on the service side. But I don't know if I like it when they start meddling in the route planning. Ms. Damerla is certainly trying hard to appeal to students. She went as far as to promise to make the U-pass part of the OneFare program (somehow). With such promises, I don't know how seriously to take her.