neubilder
Banned
If Ford disrespects council's decision and tries to obstruct progress then he is in contempt of his office and must be forced to resign.
If Ford disrespects council's decision and tries to obstruct progress then he is in contempt of his office and must be forced to resign.
He will already already forced to resign because he broke conflict of interest laws. But I doubt that if Mr. Ford continues this behaviour he will resign gracefully. At the end of the day Council will probably attempt to temporarily change the City of Toronto Act so that Ford's powers ar diluted to the point where he just doesn't matter anymore.
Hello neighbour. I disagree. It is wasted time.
We've witnessed a series of stupid standoffs, and in the end, democracy has won (as I predicted it would) all the while we've had to slap down a mayor who fancied that he could concoct his own "strong mayor" system which is not the system used in Ontario.
And at the end of the day, we have Transit City back.
I didn't need such a lesson in our way of democracy. Maybe those inclined to cast a stupid vote learned something, but I seriously doubt that .
Re. Stintz - you may indeed be the only one who thinks she's cute, and more power to you! I see her as very valuable and far more than a package.
Wow - hold on there now cowboy! This has to be proven in a court of law, then, presumably, there are appeals if he is found guilty.
I'm assuming that you know the details of the case.
Anyways the consensus is that Rob Ford will be found guilty and nobody denies that what he has done was a conflict of interest. Ford's only defence is that he may not have known about the law he broke. However the judge will likely not accept this defence. The mayor has about 15 years of political experience so it is almost a guarantee that he was well aware of the law. Additionally one of the many people who work for or are close to the mayor likely would have noticed the conflict of interest and told Mr. Ford about it.
The only way I can see Rob Ford being found getting out of this situation is if the judge determines the penalty to be Cruel and Unusual. For it to be considered Cruel and Unusual Punishment:
-The penalty would have to be "so excessive as to outrage standards of decency"
or
"grossly disproportionate to what would have been appropriate."
Put it this way, the sanity that has prevailed over Ford over the last few months would never have happened in a party system without some sort of revolt within the party. Toronto would be in a much worse position and we should be thankful that our politicians have the ability to be flexible, to think for themselves (for the most part) and to listen to their constituents.
Ford and his brother are swiftly becoming poisonous to Toronto. They've been crude troublemakers from the start, but are now threatening to actually destroy the work of council. After all this.
They are hostile to proper procedure, planning, logic and and the rule of law. They are hostile to urbanity, beauty, culture and intellectualism. They are tarted-up loudmouths, myopic, vain and self-satisfied thugs who sow discord. Pig-headed hoser elite who can neither think nor speak.
All this time and money wasted and people are exhausted - for what? Not for a real progressive triumph, not for some truly stunning accomplishment - but simply to get things back to normal and keep civic procedure in place. All of this tense, draining and divisive effort just to keep things from breaking apart and sinking into a morass of deep confusion.
So much effort in Toronto now is going into trying to keep the city from just politically and socially falling apart. This is directly due to the Ford's antagonistic, provocative stupidity.
We have an entire city to run here with a myriad of delicate issues to attend to, but you'd hardly know it, the way Ford keeps bellowing the word 'subway' like a monomaniac.
This is not only not leadership, this is gross incompetence - even, perhaps, mental illness.
Time and progress are not standing still. The entire world is spinning forward, inventing, implementing and progressing technically. We are not keeping up. Toronto needs beauty and innovation with ease of implementation. Also, socially, we may be slipping. Tolerance, goodwill, culture, intelligence - these just don't maintain themselves, and the current administration wants nothing to do with them. Financially, I worry that despite the raw propulsion of the construction industry here, Toronto is looking less and less like a safe, sane and steady bet in which to invest. The division between upper and lower classes continues to grow across the city. In all these things, we have heard nothing from Ford(s) about any practical, advanced, nor comprehensive plans to engender the complex solutions needed by the multiple issues that face us.
So much poison has already been spilt over this subway issue, I worry about political discourse in this city - and it's allaround situation - for the next decade. However, if Ford gets the boot - or if council takes clear steps to shut him out, perhaps some of the trouble might be alleviated.
Unless Ford has some kind of entirely unexpected awakening, changes course, and apologizes to the city for his actions, I can't see things getting better for some time. And this is directly the fault of Ford, his supporters and the media outlets that that grossly support him as well.
Originally Posted by CanadianNational
Ford and his brother are swiftly becoming poisonous to Toronto. They've been crude troublemakers from the start, but are now threatening to actually destroy the work of council. After all this.
They are hostile to proper procedure, planning, logic and and the rule of law. They are hostile to urbanity, beauty, culture and intellectualism. They are tarted-up loudmouths, myopic, vain and self-satisfied thugs who sow discord. Pig-headed hoser elite who can neither think nor speak.
All this time and money wasted and people are exhausted - for what? Not for a real progressive triumph, not for some truly stunning accomplishment - but simply to get things back to normal and keep civic procedure in place. All of this tense, draining and divisive effort just to keep things from breaking apart and sinking into a morass of deep confusion.
So much effort in Toronto now is going into trying to keep the city from just politically and socially falling apart. This is directly due to the Ford's antagonistic, provocative stupidity.
We have an entire city to run here with a myriad of delicate issues to attend to, but you'd hardly know it, the way Ford keeps bellowing the word 'subway' like a monomaniac.
This is not only not leadership, this is gross incompetence - even, perhaps, mental illness.
Time and progress are not standing still. The entire world is spinning forward, inventing, implementing and progressing technically. We are not keeping up. Toronto needs beauty and innovation with ease of implementation. Also, socially, we may be slipping. Tolerance, goodwill, culture, intelligence - these just don't maintain themselves, and the current administration wants nothing to do with them. Financially, I worry that despite the raw propulsion of the construction industry here, Toronto is looking less and less like a safe, sane and steady bet in which to invest. The division between upper and lower classes continues to grow across the city. In all these things, we have heard nothing from Ford(s) about any practical, advanced, nor comprehensive plans to engender the complex solutions needed by the multiple issues that face us.
So much poison has already been spilt over this subway issue, I worry about political discourse in this city - and it's allaround situation - for the next decade. However, if Ford gets the boot - or if council takes clear steps to shut him out, perhaps some of the trouble might be alleviated.
Unless Ford has some kind of entirely unexpected awakening, changes course, and apologizes to the city for his actions, I can't see things getting better for some time. And this is directly the fault of Ford, his supporters and the media outlets that that grossly support him as well.
At this point, their arguments have become so transparently silly there’s no need to debunk them.
This is probably the most anti-Ford article I've read and from The Globe And Mail, of all places.