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Metrolinx: Bombardier Flexity Freedom & Alstom Citadis Spirit LRVs

CapitalSeven said:
Yes, but the other bidder was Siemens, which was not only much, much more expensive, but had to rebuild 400 trams a few years back because they were defective. Let's not pretend Bombardier is the only manufacturer that had problems. The USA is littered with lousy trams.
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Siemens was 50% more, because of the legacy specifications of Toronto's streetcar network. The Transit City light rail vehicles don't have those restrictions, however, the Freedom and Outlook models do have interchangeable parts.
 
I was just wondering if anyone had any insider knowledge on the status of the Freedom LFLRV's? There was an article a month or two ago saying that they had started some procurement of minor parts for the first few trains. Do you think they'll build 1 train first for Metrolinx, or would the first 14 trains be the ones for the Waterloo (ion) order? I keep asking Bombardier on Twitter every couple of weeks but they don't reply. :(
 
Duck said:
I was just wondering if anyone had any insider knowledge on the status of the Freedom LFLRV's? There was an article a month or two ago saying that they had started some procurement of minor parts for the first few trains. Do you think they'll build 1 train first for Metrolinx, or would the first 14 trains be the ones for the Waterloo (ion) order? I keep asking Bombardier on Twitter every couple of weeks but they don't reply. :(
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What every ION gets will be the same as Crosstown. Crosstown cars will have the changes found on ION during testing and operation.
 
drum118 said:
What every ION gets will be the same as Crosstown. Crosstown cars will have the changes found on ION during testing and operation.
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Oh yeah, I know - but I thought I'd read somewhere that Metrolinx wanted at least one set early to do their own internal testing (where, I don't know) separate from their own huge order for the Crosstown or for ion. I assumed they'd build ion's 14 trains all in a row and then start the Crosstown fulfillment since it's still many years away. So I was just wondering if Freedom train 1 would be for Toronto, 2-15 would be Waterloo, 16-... would be for Toronto, or will 1-14 be for Waterloo, and 15-... for Toronto.

Not that it really matters - I'm more just curious how the build out is going on the first (few?) trains since they should be really on their way now.
 
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There are photos out this morning of 4412 on flatcar and ready to depart Thunder Bay.

- Paul
 
Without any article or evidence behind that tweet/statement, I wouldn't put any value in it. I could just as easily tweet that the trains are ahead of schedule.

The first train is for Waterloo Region, anyway - what does Toronto care? Crosstown doesn't open until what, 2020?
 
Duck said:
The first train is for Waterloo Region, anyway - what does Toronto care? Crosstown doesn't open until what, 2020?
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September 2021 I think is the current deadline.

There's a bit more on their website, including a quote from Metrolinx - but it doesn't really say anything ... and doesn't even say it's behind schedule. Something was said, but it's terrible news reporting.
 
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