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Who would you like to see win the 2016 US election?

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jje1000

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Not with Horwath at the helm.

They need a Bernie or Layton figure + a strong progressive platform to help them get up top.

But of course, you'd never know these days.
 

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In all honesty, the Democratic party leaders bear a significant amount of the responsibility for this catastrophic outcome. Against their better judgement, they ignored the grassroots, genuine support of Bernie Sanders to stick with the same old (Hilary), which was as tone deaf a decision as imaginable, and it cost them, big time. Their pigheaded, complacent, arrogant approach has possibly set back progressive causes by a generation. Heads should roll for that.
 

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Donald Trump is bringing out all the racist white trash people together. Hate, racist bigoted crimes being reported all over the country.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...gbt-hate-crime-wave-us-election-a7410166.html

Donald Trump's victory followed by wave of hate crime attacks against minorities across US - led by his supporters
Police say man wearing Trump hat beat and robbed Muslim woman before ripping off her hijab


Police are investigating a wave of alleged hate crimes against Muslims, Hispanic Americans, black people, ethnic minorities and the LGBT community in the wake of the US election.

Attackers professing support for Donald Trump have been accused of numerous attacks in the 24 hours following his shock victory, including death threats, physical assaults and racist graffiti.

Among the incidents is the robbery of a Muslim student from the University of Louisiana at Lafayette, who was attacked as she walked through the city on Wednesday morning.
 

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Among the incidents is the robbery of a Muslim student from the University of Louisiana at Lafayette, who was attacked as she walked through the city on Wednesday morning.
She faked it though, and in doing so, made it harder for people to believe other legitimate attacks.

Louisiana student ‘fabricated’ story of hijab attack, police say
A student at the University of Louisiana at Lafayette fabricated a story that she was attacked and had her hijab rippped off, police said Thursday.

The attack was one of several reported in the wake of Donald Trump’s election victory.

In a press release Thursday afternoon, the Lafayette Police Department said that during the course of their investigation into the woman’s complaint, she “admitted that she fabricated the story about her physical attack as well as the removal of her hijab and wallet by two white males.

“This incident is no longer under investigation” by the department, the statement said.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...y-were-attacked-by-men-invoking-donald-trump/

I believe there will be many more instances of people looking to manufacture outrage in the coming months- secondary evidence will be needed.
 

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In all honesty, the Democratic party leaders bear a significant amount of the responsibility for this catastrophic outcome. Against their better judgement, they ignored the grassroots, genuine support of Bernie Sanders to stick with the same old (Hilary), which was as tone deaf a decision as imaginable, and it cost them, big time. Their pigheaded, complacent, arrogant approach has possibly set back progressive causes by a generation. Heads should roll for that.
They do, though I think the electability of Bernie is overstated - middle America is NOT going to vote for someone that far to the left. All it takes is cries of Socialism (not to mention liberal) to skew the perception.

AoD
 
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That's pretty terrifying. Trump and the other Republicans want to scrap ObamaCare and replace it with "something terrific" as Trump says. Voters don't know what they are getting but it's going to be terrific cuz Trump says so!

Sad time for planet earth. Climate change is dead. The house and Senate are full of climate deniers and Trump believes global warming was a hoax created by the Chinese.
It will be "interesting" (in a horrifying way) to see the power dynamic between the GOP House, Senate and Trump - the establishment can potentially frustrate the plans (or any tendency to autocracy) but there will be hell to be paid in the form of Tea Party backlash from the base which Trump and his alt-right machine. Lest not forget how the GOP establishment basically caved to Trump during and after the primaries - this will be no different.

And the SCOTUS will not necessarily be the moderating influence it was either.

AoD
 

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Say WHAT?

‘Prediction professor’ who called Trump’s big win also made another forecast: Trump will be impeached

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Few prognosticators predicted a Donald Trump victory ahead of Tuesday night. Polls showed Hillary Clinton comfortably ahead, and much of America (chiefly the media) failed to anticipate the wave of pro-Trump support that propelled him to victory. But a Washington, D.C.-based professor insisted that Trump was lined up for a win — based on the idea that elections are “primarily a reflection on the performance of the party in power.”

Allan Lichtman uses a historically based system of what he calls “keys” to predict election results ahead of time. The keys are explained in-depth in Lichtman’s book, “Predicting the Next President: The Keys to the White House 2016.” In our conversations in September and October, he outlined how President Obama's second term set the Democrats up for a tight race, and his keys tipped the balance in Trump's favor, even if just barely.

At the end of our September conversation, Lichtman made another call: that if elected, Trump would eventually be impeached by a Republican Congress that would prefer a President Mike Pence — someone whom establishment Republicans know and trust.

“I'm going to make another prediction,” he said. “This one is not based on a system; it's just my gut. They don't want Trump as president, because they can't control him. He's unpredictable. They'd love to have Pence — an absolutely down-the-line, conservative, controllable Republican. And I'm quite certain Trump will give someone grounds for impeachment, either by doing something that endangers national security or because it helps his pocketbook.”

So while Republican voters clearly came home before Nov. 8 — network exit polls show 90 percent of GOP voters cast ballots for Trump — it's less clear that the party leadership is on board. (Lichtman actually isn't the only person to predict a Trump impeachment; this morning, the New York Times's David Brooks suggested that a Trump impeachment or resignation was “probably” in the cards sometime within the next year.)

It's worth noting that Lichtman's predictions use very different methods than pollsters and data-based prognosticators. Some statisticians take issue with the structure of his system, a set of 13 true/false questions, saying that the binary nature of his keys leads to what's called “overfitting,” which is basically creating a system that fits the data but has little statistical significance. But Lichtman counters by saying that the system has correctly predicted every election since 1984 (specifically, his predictions have picked the next president correctly in all of those elections but 2000, when he picked Al Gore, who won the popular vote). And Lichtman has his own criticism of data-based predictions.

“Polls are not predictors,” he said Friday in an email. “They are snapshots that simulate an election. They are abused and misused as predictors. Even the analysis of polls by Nate Silver and others which claimed a probable Clinton victory with from more than 70 percent to 99 percent certainty are mere compilations that are no better than the underlying polls.”

And he has particular disdain for prediction systems that assign a likelihood of winning.

“For all his acclaim, Nate Silver is only a clerk, not a scientific analyst,” Lichtman said.

As for the real reason for Trump's win, Lichtman says the blame can't be put on Hillary Clinton or her campaign — rather, he says, it was decided by the larger forces that shape American politics.

“The Democrats cannot rebuild by pointing fingers at Hillary Clinton and her campaign, which as the Keys demonstrated, were not the root cause of her defeat,” he said. “The Democrats can rehabilitate themselves only by offering an inspiring progressive alternative to Republican policies and building a grass-roots movement.”
 
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