micheal_can
Senior Member
That is what I thought. Had I been continuing west, it would have been simple. Still, what a mess it can make. I am wondering if any of the T-O trains actually go both ways beyond those terminals.
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Bordercollie
Senior Member
The morning trains are most likely to be on time (obviously). I did however experience a half hour delay with the maple leaf departing in the morning. Could have been an issue with track slots Into Union in the morning.
Trackside_Treasure
Active Member
Yes, standing outside the Toronto Union train shed, you'll not see too many VIA trains arrive or leave to the TMC, though some do. 'Back in the day' nearly every train terminated there and headed to Spadina coach yard and locomotives to servicing. Now, VIA has very few tracks allocated to it, and trains are stacked nose-to-tail on those tracks to head east or west as through trains.
Re: cascading yes, it's been an issue. Some of the most recent tweaks to VIA's Corridor rotation have made this worse, such as for train 71-76-668 with the same consist. For the last month, due to late arrivals of 76, 668 has left 20-50 minutes late each Monday night.
smallspy
Senior Member
The Sarnia trains run through to and from Ottawa - they need to be long trainsets.
Dan
reaperexpress
Senior Member
GEXR's lease ended many years ago. It's fully CN from Kitchener to Sarnia. However, you're correct that the speeds between Kitchener and London are so low that the speed restriction would make little to no difference. The CN segment from Bramalea to Georgetown is also not significantly affected, since it's mostly grade separated, and most of the level crossings that do exist are near stations where Via stops anyway. The only exceptions are Heritage Road and Winston Churchill, which might have crossing restrictions below the 70 mph speed trains would otherwise be travelling there.
As others have noted, running extra-short consists on the service could make the overall equipment utilization less efficient since it would require the Sarnia train to only shuttle between Toronto and Sarnia without interlining with other services. However, the point still stands that the crossing restrictions have an unusually low level of impact on Sarnia services so they are good candidates for Venture sets with fewer than 32 axles.
dowlingm
Senior Member
I think we discussed this before but wasn't crossing detection an issue on London-Sarnia when VIA were trying out RDCs?
Presumably whatever VIA had in mind at that time, running them through to Ottawa wasn't it.
Presumably whatever VIA had in mind at that time, running them through to Ottawa wasn't it.
smallspy
Senior Member
drum118
Superstar
Nov 22
More up on my site
They have built another building next to the new Siemens SCV-42 locomotive Trainsets building. They still don't have all the tracks in place for both new buildings.
There were 5 Siemens SCV-42 locomotive trainsets in the yard.
More up on my site
They have built another building next to the new Siemens SCV-42 locomotive Trainsets building. They still don't have all the tracks in place for both new buildings.
There were 5 Siemens SCV-42 locomotive trainsets in the yard.
Bordercollie
Senior Member
Looks like taking the train would be faster
micheal_can
Senior Member
That is TMC, right?Nov 22
More up on my site
They have built another building next to the new Siemens SCV-42 locomotive Trainsets building. They still don't have all the tracks in place for both new buildings.
There were 5 Siemens SCV-42 locomotive trainsets in the yard.
drum118
Superstar
Bordercollie
Senior Member
Progres at a snails pace. Meanwhile in other countries building infrastructure is actually a priority.
Amare
Senior Member
The progress of this project is indeed laughably slow, the fact that it's going to take 3 years to do this is....pathetic to say the least:
The scope of the work includes the demolition of a portion of the existing structure and the construction of state-of-the-art facilities, the construction of a new addition, removal, and replacement of tracks, and the addition of a stand-alone wheel lathe facility (to maintain wheels and ensure smooth operation on the tracks) and critical infrastructure improvements throughout the maintenance yard.
Toronto Maintenance Centre development project starts
VIA Rail's Toronto Maintenance Centre will be adapted to the new train fleet that will operate Québec City – Windsor corridor
www.railwaypro.com
VIA Rail breaks ground on Toronto Maintenance Centre modernization
To support its new fleet of Siemens Venture trains for the Windsor to Quebec City corridor, VIA Rail is upgrading both the Toronto and Montreal Maintenance Centres. The formal ground breaking ceremony for the project in Toronto was held on July 10, 2023.
www.transportaction.ca
micheal_can
Senior Member
My 2 cents (rounded up to a nickel) on the Siemens fleet.
We are seeing that the longer Siemens trains do not need to follow the slow orders. We have a legacy fleet that still needs to be retired. We have some shortened Siemens trains that we could lengthen if we bought more cars. So, after the courts make their decision, and if CN wins, just buy enough cars to lengthen the trains that are too short, and move on with this new fleet.
We are seeing that the longer Siemens trains do not need to follow the slow orders. We have a legacy fleet that still needs to be retired. We have some shortened Siemens trains that we could lengthen if we bought more cars. So, after the courts make their decision, and if CN wins, just buy enough cars to lengthen the trains that are too short, and move on with this new fleet.
McGillicuddy
New Member
Certainly VIA seems capable of selling out longer trains than they've historically run, despite higher ticket prices.