cplchanb
Senior Member
all of that cost will somehow be offloaded onto us the paying customer... shame...
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VIA Rail
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cplchanb
Senior Member
the govt just needs to have the balls to stand up to CN's lax standards. they have their annual derailments and yet theres no serious repercussions for that.
Urban Sky
Senior Member
No, the taxpayer. VIA prices its tickets according to the interplay of demand and supply, not its costs…
Allandale25
Senior Member
cplchanb
Senior Member
And that's why you need a govt who has the spine to take on CN and CP for the interests of passenger rail over a dinosaur shipping company that's too big to fail.
Urban Sky
Senior Member
As I keep reminding people here, the government gets what it pays for, even if that’s close to nothing:
micheal_can
Senior Member
Maybe the government should show CN who they are messing with. Maybe the subdivisions that the Corridor runs in becomes nationalized.
Problem is, none of the parties, and no one of the current government has the balls to do this.
robmausser
Senior Member
CN rail is worth over $100 Billion dollars.
We'd be better off building a dedicated HSR line with that money. $100 Billion would just buy CN. We'd still need to pay another $100 billion to convert track to HSR.
Might as well just build your own trackage elsewhere.
dowlingm
Senior Member
Why do you think this country has a government structure which would take on CN when it won’t take on Rogers, Bell and Telus, or the major banks, or Galen Weston. Give your head a shake. This issue is simply not at a scale of importance to spend that sort of money, no matter how deeply you or anyone else on here loves passenger trains.
If this was the US, there would be no notion of nationalizing CN or any other class Is for a regulatory issue of this scale. In the case of CN-IC Amtrak has essentially knuckled under by deploying axle count cars, but faced with Chatsworth America did (clumsily) legislate for and roll out PTC (something Canada decided to believe was somehow not of sufficient gravity to follow suit).
The stakes here are higher of course than on a small proportion of Amtrak territory, but are also partially a factor of how many grade crossings have been permitted to be built/ to continue in operation across trackage on which >90mph trains have been running for decades on the basis that it’s “safe enough”, and a failure to commit to a national or at least regional program of high quality train detection and control infrastructure in order to shield both taxpayers and freight rail shareholders from the spending that would require.
Urban Sky
Senior Member
Friendly reminder that whenever you jump over a stick a troll holds for you, the troll wins, as his motivation to troll is fueled by any attention he receives…
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CapitalSeven
Senior Member
There's a substantial hole in the logic of that analysis. VIA has said over and over that service on the existing corridor will remain, with a focus on the destinations other than the three major cities. Therefore one would conclude that a reasonable schedule of relatively short trains will be needed. The issue is not solved by HFR, which is years off anyway.
dowlingm
Senior Member
At some point the number of friendly reminders becomes unfriendly.
Urban Sky
Senior Member
Even after blocking the person you were replying to, just scrolling through the amount of posts (across multiple threads!) dedicated to explaining the same things over and over to the same person becomes rather tiring and exasperating. I’m just trying what I believe to be necessary to protect my mental health and lacking any authority to moderate or intervene in the discussions here, all I’m left with is to encourage people to rethink whether they really want to continue responding to these ever-same talking points. I really don’t want to, but I guess at some point I’ll have to consider also blocking the people who keep encouraging this draining ritual of bad-faith discussions…
Bojaxs
Senior Member
Just did a week long stint assisting at the CN yard in Montreal. I drove up here with a company car, but my boss needs to keep the car in Montreal and asked me to take the VIA train back down to Toronto.
Taking train #67.
Business lounge at the Dorval station is small compared to Ottawa and Toronto's lounges.
Definitely a great place for train spotting.
Taking train #67.
Business lounge at the Dorval station is small compared to Ottawa and Toronto's lounges.
Definitely a great place for train spotting.
Bojaxs
Senior Member
We entered GO train territory and right off the bat we got a red signal. Even the conductor got on the comm and announced we're in GO transit territory and to expect delays. The train was stopped long enough for me to snap this pic of the CN 401 bridge. Longest delay on the trip so far.
We didn't start moving again until a north bound GO train passed. This spot seems like a choke point for VIA and GO. Maybe the Feds and Metrolinx should work together to triple track LSE all the way to the CN 401 bridge with a flyover track connecting GO and CN tracks. Allowing for quicker/ smoother transitions between GO and CN tracks for VIA.
We didn't start moving again until a north bound GO train passed. This spot seems like a choke point for VIA and GO. Maybe the Feds and Metrolinx should work together to triple track LSE all the way to the CN 401 bridge with a flyover track connecting GO and CN tracks. Allowing for quicker/ smoother transitions between GO and CN tracks for VIA.
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