Northern Light
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Good find.
I don't think its the appropriate criteria for picking a proponent, but one of these groups employs a UT'er who could then feed us inside info..... LOL
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Good find.
I don't think its the appropriate criteria for picking a proponent, but one of these groups employs a UT'er who could then feed us inside info..... LOL
innsertnamehere
Superstar
Interesting - no Alstom bid? Weren't they the ones suggesting HSR-lite?
cplchanb
Senior Member
these names I dont want to see on any RFPs... SNC for obvious reasons. Bechtel... you can ask our friends at NASA just how well they are handling the SLS mobile launcher 2 project and how well the money is being spent.
Ellis Don... 50/50..... ive worked with them and it they are hot and cold depending on the coinflip.
robmausser
Senior Member
Considering SNC is on the list I think we know that this is just for smoke and mirrors. They've already won the project.
Urban Sky
Senior Member
You mean: just like Bombardier won VIA‘s Corridor fleet renewal…?
crs1026
Superstar
The reality is worse than that. It seems that Ottawa is seriously hoping for proponents to make the detailed pitch, because Ottawa has neither the technical knowledge to determine what the design should look like, nor the courage to face the public with a firm idea and the price tag that they have to justify.
It helps to be able to say "we scoured the world for expertise, and this is what the experts told us we should build, and this is the best they say we can do on price".
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onetoronto
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I'm genuinely surprised Chinese companies, such as CRRC, are nowhere to be seen
Frank_Lee
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A lot of serious players missing. I suspect that several of the consortia participants are interpreting this the same way we are---that this won't lead to actual construction, but a succession of future studies.
DSCToronto
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Allandale25
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More links/media:
Race to build Toronto-Quebec City high-frequency rail down to 3 contenders - National | Globalnews.ca
Minister of Transportation Omar Alghabra announced that the three contenders will be submitting their proposals this year, but said he expects service to begin by the mid-2030s.
globalnews.ca
Government of Canada announces the groups that will be able to submit a proposal for the High Frequency Rail project
/CNW/ - The High Frequency Rail project, the largest Canadian infrastructure project, aims to provide clean, safe and efficient transportation to Canadians...
www.newswire.ca
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Ottawa shortlists three groups to vie for Toronto-Quebec City rail line
Project would create dedicated passenger lines separate from freight traffic; high-speed service an option
www.theglobeandmail.com
Northern Light
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From the Global piece linked above:
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Northern Light
Superstar
From the Globe and Mail piece linked above, we get this:
And this:
So the cost end has been opened up again.....
And this:
So the cost end has been opened up again.....
Allandale25
Senior Member
Good point and agreed. I'm surprised by this. Anyone have speculation?
Northern Light
Superstar
One bid did not make the cut, they took the top 3 out of 4; I assume, but don't know, Alstom was part of the 4th bid?
Urban Sky
Senior Member
The following poll was posted on the Rail Fans Canada Discord server:
Which of the 4 HFR RFQ consortiums got eliminated? - StrawPoll
What is your opinion? Vote now: CDPQi, SNC Lavalin, Systra, Keolis, SNCF, Teachers Pension Fund, Bechtel, John Laing, WSP, DB, Fengate, Hitachi, Siemens, Meridian, EGIS, EllisDon Cap
strawpoll.com