robmausser
Senior Member
Its funny that CN can run more trains on the CP line, but heaven forbid VIA would be allowed to do the same. Instead they have to add 2 hours to their Montreal train.
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Its funny that CN can run more trains on the CP line, but heaven forbid VIA would be allowed to do the same. Instead they have to add 2 hours to their Montreal train.
Bordercollie
Senior Member
The lack of stations would be a problem. You would miss everything from Montreal to Trenton.
crs1026
Superstar
I'm never sure when sarcasm begins, but just in case this is to be read literally... I'm not aware that there were any detour trains. CN simply held everything until the line reopened. Then, there was a flurry of catchup.
While this wreck was serious in many respects, it did not take very much trackage out of service for all that long. Amazing what a couple bulldozers can do once the investigators release the site.
- Paul
Bordercollie
Senior Member
You don't consider two/three days to restore service a long time?
allengeorge
Senior Member
It's obvious my sense of time is off, because, no - it seems fairly short given a derailment and track having to be replaced?
crs1026
Superstar
Wreck happened Thursday morning, observer reports on social media indicate the south track reopened around dinner time on Friday.
In terms of linear feet of track destroyed, there wasn't much work needed to restore the south track. Unlike the old days, when big steam cranes used to elegantly place cars back on the rails one by one... these days the wreck crews (usually contractors) just punch a path through the mess and lay in pre-assembled panels of track (which are staged in strategic locations). Deal with the wrecked cars later, usually by just scrapping them on site, after trains are running again.
Mobilizing unplanned detours is not simple or quick, and the dearth of interchanges makes that quite inconvenient. There is little slack in either railway's labour pool to pilot and staff detour trains. "Wait it out" is the more likely solution when the line can be reopened in about 36 hours.
- Paul
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kEiThZ
Superstar
Is this actually true? My understanding was that the bank was to be capitalized over time. IE $30B over a decade. (Not exact number.)
It kinda sucks that the CPC dislikes the concept. There's value in an agency that brings focused infrastructure financing expertise, has the flexibility to partner with investors and can smooth government capital flows over time.
It should be noted that the CPC's objection to the CIB is based on its narrow mandate of funding green infrastructure. I suspect that if the CIB was building pipelines, the view would be very different.
roger1818
Senior Member
The Winchester sub is not approved for passenger trains by Transport Canada. Even if it was, I highly doubt that using it would shave 2 hours off the trip, especially with all the freight congestion.
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littlewill1166
Active Member
I was serious, I live near the mid Toronto line and there have been more trains than usual. I had trouble sleeping last night because of the noise. Some locos had CN on them, but it's also not that uncommon even before the incident.
Nonetheless, I'm sorry. I should have said that the CP mid Toronto line has been busier than usual since the incident. And the uptick in traffic has been disruptive to residents living along the corridor.
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littlewill1166
Active Member
There aren't any stations for the trains to stop at.
crs1026
Superstar
According to this report, p14, you are correct, the money is not all sitting in their account. As of last December, the bank's assets totalled about $1.4B.
That may improve the numbers from what I suggested, but I'm not sure it makes the CIB look any more attractive. Perhaps the opposite - It's still a very expensive way to administer $1.2B in infrastructure investment.
- Paul
Bordercollie
Senior Member
I wonder how much it would cost to re-instate the line from Sudbury to Ottawa ? Seeing the growth in intermodal transport I would think it would be helpful.
You could make it single track with passing sidings, with CTC signalling along the way.
lenaitch
Senior Member
Sudbury to Smiths Falls actually. CP decided they didn't need it. A lot of their intermodal traffic comes through the US so I'm not sure it would make much difference. None of the railroads want to keep lines just in case, particularly ones that have virtually no enroute revenue. Besides, if they are successful with their bid for KCS, they will be taking on a whack of debt.
Bordercollie
Senior Member
Another note with Prime Minister O'Toole likely to win the election, you can kiss all of those election promises goodbye. Including VIA HFR.
They would rather build 2 more lanes on the 401 than spend money on VIA rail.
And electrification of the corridor between union west to Windsor won't be happening anytime soon. Including the money for upgrading the Milton line.
Like the Harper ages we will see cuts to balance the budget in ten years. That's his platform.
Urban Sky
Senior Member
Not to mention the need (for non-Push-Pull trains) to wye the locomotive in Smiths Falls to reverse directions...
Despite its reputation, the Harper administration actually oversaw and funded the partial triple-tracking of the Kingston Subdivision and the conversion of 8 Chateau and 4 Park cars to form the new Prestige Class - two crucial and quite substantial modernization strategies.